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127 film cutting
« on: December 18, 2012, 08:59:57 PM »
I'm afraid the demise of the Efke rather passed me by.  :( I have been looking at the £12.00 rolls on ebay but it seems a bit silly to say the least. I have, earlier today, bought a couple of rolls from Freestyle which seems to be one of the last places in the known universe to have any left in stock. Then I started a little googling and came across this:

How to cut 120 format rollfilm to 127

And so not being one to let the grass grow I went and bought one of these: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/251170701216?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649

I now know more about cigar cutters than I ever imagined I would, but suffice to say cigars are measuresd in gauges and (you know where this is going  :-[) but a fat cigar is 64 gauge! Which apparently is an inch (25mm) or the same size as the end of a 120 film spool.

With Christmas (your generic winter religious holiday may vary) postage I'm not sure when my big fat cigar circumciser is going to arrive but I'll let you know how I get on.  :)

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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2012, 09:13:12 PM »
When I think I overengineered something that does a similar job a few years ago.
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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2012, 09:15:34 PM »
F a n t a s t i c !!  Thanks for sharing this Nigel... I'd heard about but I'd never saw the action! It looks simple...

Now, I wonder if I can respool the leftover onto a 110 film?  ;)
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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2012, 09:19:41 PM »
Not 110 since it's got some position sprockets. But I bet it would fit just fine in a Minox!
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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2012, 09:32:32 PM »
cool! because it feels just a waste to let that precious thing go to the bin!
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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2012, 09:37:59 PM »
from what Diane has described to me, that's the same way she cuts her film down for that size.


Pretty easy!

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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #6 on: December 19, 2012, 02:16:37 AM »
GENIUS!

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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #7 on: December 19, 2012, 11:10:02 AM »
The alternative would be to buy the film cutting machinery from Efke, but that's a bit more expensive, I guess ;)

Great video, BTW. Now that I know how simple it is I really should look into another 127 TLR.

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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #8 on: December 19, 2012, 11:13:51 AM »
And how exactly would you roll that onto a roll of 127? I assume you will have to completely unroll it in the dark and then roll it onto the 127 spool so that the start of the 120 roll is also the start of the 127. Also does that mean you can use the numbers on the back of the 120 film? I would assume that they are in a different place.

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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #9 on: December 19, 2012, 12:28:57 PM »
And how exactly would you roll that onto a roll of 127? I assume you will have to completely unroll it in the dark and then roll it onto the 127 spool so that the start of the 120 roll is also the start of the 127. Also does that mean you can use the numbers on the back of the 120 film? I would assume that they are in a different place.
if you've got backing paper from an old 127-roll then use that.

if you don't, I've used the backing paper off an 120-roll, using the numbers for 6x4,5 shots. there will be some extra spacing between shots but it works.

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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #10 on: December 19, 2012, 12:50:12 PM »
So the 645 numbers are in the right place? Great! The camera I'm looking at actually only needs the first frame correctly aligned so that could work.

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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #11 on: December 19, 2012, 03:27:39 PM »
So the 645 numbers are in the right place? Great! The camera I'm looking at actually only needs the first frame correctly aligned so that could work.
it could depend on how you cut it though! hm.... I'll see if I can find my rolls. it was a while since I did this.

here are some length specifications along with a scan of a backing paper: http://photo.net/classic-cameras-forum/00WsQv
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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #12 on: December 19, 2012, 08:16:50 PM »
I'm planning to use an old 127 backing paper. Comparing the two backing papers the 120 film would seem to be about 200mm longer so I'm going to have to cut it down a little.



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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #13 on: December 19, 2012, 08:33:58 PM »
You can keep the original 127 backpaper to use as a guide and draw the numbers onto an discarded 120 backpaper. I have an old verichrome and whenever I want to respool some 35mm film on a 127 spool I use it. I just place both together and follow the original as shown...
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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #14 on: December 19, 2012, 08:44:51 PM »
Thanks Mauricio, I'm going to have to save the next couple of 120 backing papers I use.
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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #15 on: December 22, 2012, 10:42:49 PM »
After seeing the same video I bought a cigar cutter too. Just need Santa's permission to open the parcel with the Baby Rollei now ... less than 50 hours to go  :)

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Re: 127 film cutting
« Reply #16 on: January 07, 2013, 06:03:04 PM »
You can keep the original 127 backpaper to use as a guide and draw the numbers onto an discarded 120 backpaper. I have an old verichrome and whenever I want to respool some 35mm film on a 127 spool I use it. I just place both together and follow the original as shown...

I have used this when cutting down 120 to 127. The Foth is 40x30 portrait, and none of the existing 120 numbers line up. So far so good, second roll nearly finished. If 127 and I hit it off I would very much like a baby TLR of some sort, a Primo, a Ricoh or Yashica.
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