Author Topic: risking derision... lomo has a new camera 6x12 medium format (Read 16364 times)

Erik · « **on:** October 18, 2012, 04:23:52 PM »

Pretty nice -- too costly for me of course, but I love the direction they're going!
http://microsites.lomography.com/belair/?utm_source=MailingList&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=nl_belair_preorder_PRIORITY

Suzi Livingstone · « **Reply #1 on:** October 18, 2012, 04:37:52 PM »

I dont even wanna know the price of this..

SLVR · « **Reply #2 on:** October 18, 2012, 04:58:24 PM »

$174.50 for the all black one... Not that bad...

Erik · « **Reply #3 on:** October 18, 2012, 05:16:07 PM »

Quote from: TinTin on October 18, 2012, 04:58:24 PM

$174.50 for the all black one... Not that bad...

I think that's Euros, not dollars Tintin

Sandeha Lynch · « **Reply #4 on:** October 18, 2012, 05:20:35 PM »

Well heck, it's actually a proper camera.

I feel a christmas list coming on.

Chris A Fraser · « **Reply #5 on:** October 18, 2012, 06:16:24 PM »

Did I miss the "guess what kind of camera Lomo is coming out with now" thread?

Fully Auto? hmmm?

tkmedia · « **Reply #6 on:** October 18, 2012, 06:39:48 PM »

I may just get one.

6x12, 6x9, 6x6, auto exposure(EV4-15), interchangeable lens (90mm, 58mm f/8;f/16), shutter 1/125+B, bellows, zone focus(1m, 1.5m, 3m, inf), hotshoe, lr44 battery powered...

sapata · « **Reply #7 on:** October 18, 2012, 06:46:44 PM »

It looks nice, inspired by Polaroid Land series I guess.

I couldn't find the lens' brand, is it made by the Russian Lomo?

SLVR · « **Reply #8 on:** October 18, 2012, 07:18:42 PM »

Quote from: Erik on October 18, 2012, 05:16:07 PM

Quote from: TinTin on October 18, 2012, 04:58:24 PM
$174.50 for the all black one... Not that bad...
I think that's Euros, not dollars Tintin

mine says CAD. for a preorder it would cost me $180.01 with shipping and taxes (piggies help)

Jeff Warden · « **Reply #9 on:** October 18, 2012, 07:19:51 PM »

That's quite surprising, in a good way. I think they're cool!

Late Developer · « **Reply #10 on:** October 18, 2012, 07:27:34 PM »

Surprising - it actually looks good. Mind you, I cannot justify having any more gear.......

Alan · « **Reply #11 on:** October 18, 2012, 08:27:54 PM »

yup i like the look of that for sure !

i have my 6x12 format covered with the holga120pan

jojonas~ · « **Reply #12 on:** October 18, 2012, 09:27:20 PM »

wow... well ain't this is a pleasant surprise? haha~

this looks pretty decent in many ways. the wide, the many formats in one camera and it actually looks kind of nice

I hope they have a good finder though considering the different formats. but I do like how they solved the finder on the diana mini, so here's for staying positive!

it would be interesting to know its slowest shutter speed (besides B).

Francois · « **Reply #13 on:** October 18, 2012, 09:43:34 PM »

I got this in my mail this morning too!

Considering the camera is a metal body and can switch from 6x6 to 6x9 and 6x12 in mid roll, it could be quite interesting.
The way I look at it, if you're too broke to get a Linhof 612, you might as well go for this one.

They say the lenses were made by craftsmen... I wonder if that means they're going to be good?

moominsean · « **Reply #14 on:** October 18, 2012, 10:27:42 PM »

Yeah i was kind of surprised as well. Looks decent enough, seriously considering getting one. Just the black because the others are the exact same camera for more money. Would like to know the lens format, though, as it says the lens is removable. Can we only use other yet to be produced lomo lenses or is it an existing mount? Couldn't find the info.

I'm sure the variable shot sizes just come from inserting masks. Ddn't really check out what the "experimental sticker" packs they were selling with it, sounds weird.

(edit: haha i misread city slicker as city sticker)

And yes the design looks straight ripped off from the polaroid type 20 camera, bu at least they ripped off a cool looking camera.

I'm sure mijonju has already shot wih it...

Phil Bebbington · « **Reply #15 on:** October 18, 2012, 10:31:14 PM »

Okay, the swine's have my attention here!

However, I do have an unused Holga Pan and a Linhof that is screaming at me for attention, but, damn them nevertheless!

LT · « **Reply #16 on:** October 18, 2012, 10:31:28 PM »

Another pleasantly surprised punter here. I might even say it looks good.

You'd better order one if you want one - the link I'm looking at says limited to 300 units worldwide.

Phil Bebbington · « **Reply #17 on:** October 18, 2012, 10:32:52 PM »

I'll oddly be releived when they are all gone so that I can say "Damn, missed that one"

moominsean · « **Reply #18 on:** October 18, 2012, 10:41:31 PM »

the 300 is for the limited edition models only...just silver with different leatherettes. black is the regular model, 500 of those. plastic maybe? I ordered one, so we shall see! haven't had a new camera for a couple years...

reading through the descriptions a bit more carefully, looks like two lenses are included, a 90mm and 58mm. that's actually pretty amazing considering the price. though it is zone focusing and not a rangefinder.

and really anything that encourages 120 film is a good thing.

Ordinal · « **Reply #19 on:** October 19, 2012, 12:06:24 AM »

Reader, I ordered one.

mcduff · « **Reply #20 on:** October 19, 2012, 12:35:45 AM »

No other lomo has tempted me so much. I am not sure if I will bite as that $200 would help with a few used camera purchases I have in mind. Much like when they helped out 110, I think I will benefit from this even if I do not buy any of their hardware.

astrobeck · « **Reply #21 on:** October 19, 2012, 12:38:24 AM »

Quote from: Phil Bebbington on October 18, 2012, 10:32:52 PM

I'll oddly be releived when they are all gone so that I can say "Damn, missed that one"

I'm with you on this one Phil! Although once Sean gets his and takes his usual magical images, I'll pine away for one...such is life though eh?

tani.P · « **Reply #22 on:** October 19, 2012, 02:42:40 AM »

This one took me totally by surprise. Price isn't ridiculous, multi-format is interesting, and it's kind of out of line with Lomo's toy camera milieu. Why no manual settings, though?

tkmedia · « **Reply #23 on:** October 19, 2012, 03:45:42 AM »

Looks like controls for shutter speed and focus are all on the lens. And more lenses planned. So I would not be surprised if there would be more options in the future. Distance zone scale focus is not a big issue there are a lot of pan cameras that are similar. How does film advance work?

Suzi Livingstone · « **Reply #24 on:** October 19, 2012, 08:56:16 AM »

Quote from: TinTin on October 18, 2012, 04:58:24 PM

$174.50 for the all black one... Not that bad...

Cheaper than I thought, as I couldn;t find a price on the site anywhere..

I still can;t justify a splurge though and if I could there are a couple of other toys I want more. Aesthetically pleasing though..

jojonas~ · « **Reply #25 on:** October 19, 2012, 09:26:07 AM »

well, it does have a hotshoe hot getting a rangefinder one there souldn't be a problem

gary m · « **Reply #26 on:** October 19, 2012, 01:48:02 PM »

Couldn't hold back. Ordered the black one

ChristineHickey · « **Reply #27 on:** October 19, 2012, 02:43:17 PM »

ARGH! I just promised my hubby "no more cameras". How do I convince him "just one more"?? $:-\$

Multi-format, interchangeable lenses, more lenses planned, great Polaroid-esque design, nice price early bird price point....

If it sells out my next Thursday (payday), I'll be relieved. Otherwise, I may have to abscond with some funds.

moominsean · « **Reply #28 on:** October 19, 2012, 07:28:02 PM »

It has such a wide lens, be interesting to use it with polaroid. I see a project in the future! I almost want to buy two so I can modify one...but it may be better to take a modified j66 and use the lens.

moominsean · « **Reply #29 on:** October 19, 2012, 07:43:05 PM »

Quote from: jojonas~ on October 19, 2012, 09:26:07 AM

well, it does have a hotshoe hot getting a rangefinder one there souldn't be a problem

Curious though if it "clicks" into each focus setting, though.

Francois · « **Reply #30 on:** October 19, 2012, 10:23:22 PM »

Quote from: tani.P on October 19, 2012, 02:42:40 AM

Why no manual settings, though?

Manual settings need to be calibrated. This has a continuously variable shutter like the Polaroids which is simpler to build.
But by playing with the ISO setting, you can add and remove a few stops to the exposure.

astrobeck · « **Reply #31 on:** October 21, 2012, 07:33:17 AM »

I just read on another forum that if you enter ILOVELOMO as a promo code in the coupon box at checkout, you can get an extra 10% off....worth a try if you are interested.

I'm still not buying one though....

charles binns · « **Reply #32 on:** October 21, 2012, 02:39:15 PM »

It looks like a decent camera and at a very unLomo like reasonable price. I don't think it's one for me but would be interested to see pictures people shoot with it.

JPC · « **Reply #33 on:** October 21, 2012, 07:04:52 PM »

Well I was dithering about this or going for another Zero pinhole camera. This won, especially as the discount code ILOVELOMO in a previous post worked bringing the price down to £125. Just hope it arrives ok

Chris A Fraser · « **Reply #34 on:** October 21, 2012, 09:39:32 PM »

After debating back and forth for a couple of days, I did it. Placed an order. Felt kind of dirty using that coupon code, but hey I'm cheap.

Alan · « **Reply #35 on:** October 21, 2012, 10:19:53 PM »

wow guys - this will be interesting to see some results!

Francois · « **Reply #36 on:** October 21, 2012, 10:45:58 PM »

Too bad some of the older (and showing a bigger rebate) codes don't work... I need the money to finish my basement

SLVR · « **Reply #37 on:** October 22, 2012, 12:28:30 AM »

I have about 25 piggies i wont use that i can pass on. Also the slot machine is on right now which gives codes.

jojonas~ · « **Reply #38 on:** October 22, 2012, 12:13:39 PM »

rumor time! I read this elsewhere:
"They've already leaked that they are working on a premium Russian glass lens for this camera. It will most likely be razor sharp. It might also be fast."

kaituba · « **Reply #39 on:** October 24, 2012, 03:22:35 AM »

I've wandered into this place, having done a google search wondering what happened to toycamera.com. I hadn't been in there in ages, but I was curious when I got the ominous bad website warning.

Now I found this forum. It's like walking into a strange bar, only to realize there are many familiar faces in the crowd. Hi everyone!

Ok... on to the relevant topic, The Belair X 6-12.

I usually don't care to spend too much money on my lo-fi cameras, but for some reason, the Belair really caught my eye, and I was excited by it's possibilities.

I ordered the black one at the 30% discount pre-order price, $175. (I didn't see the discount code till I came here). I'm usually not so impetuous, but I just got paid for a freelance job, and had just deposited the check the same day!

I'm looking forward to comparing notes with everyone on this new camera.

Kai

jojonas~ · « **Reply #40 on:** October 24, 2012, 02:28:15 PM »

hey kai! welcome to the bar on the other side of town

Francois · « **Reply #41 on:** October 24, 2012, 02:41:28 PM »

Welcome

Ed Wenn · « **Reply #42 on:** October 24, 2012, 08:30:15 PM »

Hi Kai. You have arrived at a unique moment in Filmwasters history....the first ever post where the damn Lomographic Society hasn't received a kicking from half of the active forum members! Wow! An auspicious start to your time here

As for the camera.....very, very interesting. A very pleasing turn of events.

What next I wonder? TIP to lower their prices by 33% and NOT mention it in an annoying marketing campaign. Things are looking up

Francois · « **Reply #43 on:** October 24, 2012, 09:38:00 PM »

Come on Ed, TIP and Lomo wouldn't be the same without their annoying marketing.
It's like K-Tel not selling some cheap piece of plastic in an infomercial (OK, I must admit I've always loved those crappy infomercials from the 70's and 80's...)
Here's a K-Tel infomercial for those who never heard of it... just imagine if it had been made by Lomo or TIP
K-tel Records "Pure Power" commercial

astrobeck · « **Reply #44 on:** October 28, 2012, 07:08:14 PM »

This is exciting, the first batch of pre-order cameras has sold out! At least the snake skin one has...
This is great news for film users!!!

Can't wait for someone here to get theirs and post some photos with it.....

Jack Johnson · « **Reply #45 on:** November 03, 2012, 10:42:46 PM »

Thinking about this camera in a new light. As a 6x9 it's a 40mm equivalent (which I like) and at 6x12 with the wide angle lens it's like a monster Vivitar UWS. Could be a lot of fun.

Chris A Fraser · « **Reply #46 on:** November 24, 2012, 05:29:06 PM »

I have noticed a few Instagramers posting shots of their new cameras. looks like they have started shipping these out. Anyone here receive their camera yet?

astrobeck · « **Reply #47 on:** November 24, 2012, 05:39:23 PM »

Sean???

Rich815 · « **Reply #48 on:** November 24, 2012, 05:40:44 PM »

Quote from: astrobeck on October 28, 2012, 07:08:14 PM

This is exciting, the first batch of pre-order cameras has sold out! At least the snake skin one has...
This is great news for film users!!!

Perhaps. I have two friends who bought Diana kits about 2 years ago. I was thrilled when I heard and gave them both a couple rolls of film and even offered to develop and scan for them if they wanted. Both cameras have still not even left their boxes...

Ordinal · « **Reply #49 on:** November 24, 2012, 05:51:23 PM »

A few pics taken with the Belair have appeared in the group pool on Flickr - http://www.flickr.com/groups/lomobelair/

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