Author Topic: BBC4 - Seven Photographs that Changed Fashion (Read 6014 times)

salvo · « **on:** January 12, 2009, 10:56:47 AM »

For those in the UK and who can receive BBC4 (and of course interested in the topic...)
14 Jan 2009, 21:00 on BBC Four
"Fashion photographer Rankin recreates seven of his favourite images as he takes a journey through a brief history of the fashion photograph."

below link to trailer showing Rankin enjoying playing with a Rolleiflex TLR
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00gq75c

Nigel · « **Reply #1 on:** January 12, 2009, 03:15:05 PM »

That does look good thanks for the link.

Nigel

Francois · « **Reply #2 on:** January 12, 2009, 03:25:27 PM »

I'll have to check if somebody puts it out as a torrent...

Skorj · « **Reply #3 on:** January 13, 2009, 11:21:02 AM »

Quote from: Francois on January 12, 2009, 03:25:27 PM

I'll have to check if somebody puts it out as a torrent...

Neither The Box nor Mininova appear to list. Damn! Try again soon... Thanks!

Francois · « **Reply #4 on:** January 13, 2009, 03:12:53 PM »

Quote from: salvo on January 12, 2009, 10:56:47 AM

For those in the UK and who can receive BBC4 (and of course interested in the topic...)
14 Jan 2009, 21:00 on BBC Four

Be patient Skorj... we're only the 13th

Quote from: Skorj on January 13, 2009, 11:21:02 AM

Neither The Box nor Mininova appear to list. Damn! Try again soon... Thanks!

Try again on Thursday...

choppert · « **Reply #5 on:** January 14, 2009, 10:16:28 PM »

Was quite good.

Glad to see some film used, and he appreciated the difference between rattling through pixels and thinking about film.

Is it a series does anyone know? The title read "....fashion" suggesting other episodes.

Francois · « **Reply #6 on:** January 14, 2009, 10:30:49 PM »

They say it might appear on iPlayer within the next 7 days...
It's not available as a torrent yet...

CateM · « **Reply #7 on:** January 15, 2009, 10:23:35 AM »

I liked the bit where Rankin said he felt he was more of - what was it? - a 'bouncing rabbit' than a 'faun'...
He did seem to value film which was nice to see - even though I guess it won't become a regular thing for him (not sure, didn't see it all, fortunately there are a few repeats coming up looks like)..
I thought it was great when they got the original model back for the Helmut Newton shot.
Good prog!
Thanks for the heads up.

This is my first post, I should say 'hello'! - I finally got round to registering and am pleased to be here.
As far as film goes, I'm working almost exclusively just now in 120, b&w, printing in my own darkroom.

cate

salvo · « **Reply #8 on:** January 15, 2009, 11:24:30 AM »

yep, enjoyed it too. I liked the bit with David Bailey the most probably and the Helmut Newton re-shoot.
IMHO the original were more interesting (at least for me), maybe because they already so well fixed in our memory? Probably not easy or correct to compare anyway.
I did not like much his re-shoot of Avedon's elephants and model, somehow for me he did not capture the "spirit".
Nice program though. Not sure whether a series, I think BBC4 are having a fashion themed week covering different aspects.
salvo

CateM · « **Reply #9 on:** January 15, 2009, 12:09:02 PM »

Yes, I agree the results didn't come that near - didn't see the Avedon one but thought one or two were mildly embarrassingly not like the originals - fun to watch though.

Skorj · « **Reply #10 on:** January 16, 2009, 10:39:08 AM »

Now available at The Box. Thanks!

This-is-damion · « **Reply #11 on:** January 18, 2009, 12:15:10 AM »

ive just watched this, thought it was very good, didnt think much of rankins repro's but i guess it was an impossible task- trying to duplicate an original moment, all his looked very staged....which they were.

good programme though!

well worth a watch if you can find.

Skorj · « **Reply #12 on:** January 18, 2009, 11:48:47 AM »

Quote from: This-is-damion on January 18, 2009, 12:15:10 AM

didnt think much of rankins repros

I didn't think much of him. What a first class DICK. But, if you're going to be good at your game (and I've never heard of him), then you need a bit of attitude I suppose.

The recreations were ghastly or didn't add anything, but I suspect they were just an excuse to engage with icons and talk about history and the role of the photographs - this though was done very well. Recommended viewing.

tinm@n · « **Reply #13 on:** January 18, 2009, 03:53:49 PM »

mmm I'd really like to see this but for some reason its not available on BBC iplayer. Also that TheBox site is not taking on any new members either

suckerpunch · « **Reply #14 on:** January 19, 2009, 12:15:55 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/user/watoic

Karl · « **Reply #15 on:** January 19, 2009, 01:28:41 PM »

The assistants made me laugh - fancy having people to load up your film and wind the film on for you! I've been looking for ways to involve the family in my photography...

tinm@n · « **Reply #16 on:** January 23, 2009, 12:24:12 AM »

Finally watched it. Thanks for the Youtube link suckerpunch.

It was an interesting programme, thought the guy was ok really after expecting the worst after what I read here. They chose very good photographers I thought and it was amusing. Good to see the analogue gear in use

choppert · « **Reply #17 on:** January 23, 2009, 10:25:58 AM »

Quote from: Karl on January 19, 2009, 01:28:41 PM

The assistants made me laugh - fancy having people to load up your film and wind the film on for you! I've been looking for ways to involve the family in my photography...

Yes, the winding on of the Rollei was a bit of overkill.

Maybe this is the government getting people back to work and lifting us all out of the credit crunch. I'd imagined the great public works being roads and rail, not film advancing. Ho hum, you live and learn.

Francois · « **Reply #18 on:** February 03, 2009, 07:00:56 PM »

Just to bring back up an old thread, if some still want to view the show which is not available as a torrent, I found it on various file sharing sites.

On Rapidshare and SendSpace, they are the same files. On Upload Jockey, they have been split into smaller chunks. The files contain a total of 48 RAR files which need to be decompressed into a single 701mb file. Don't ask why they did it that way... but the file is good quality just like on TV.

Here are the links:
Rapidshare
part 1
part 2
part 3
part 4

Sendspace
part 1
part 2
part 3
part 4

Upload Jockey
part1
part2
part3
part4
part5
part6
part7
part8

Since they are all sites that throttle you and restrict the number of possible transfers, I was simultaneously downloading different files from Rapidshare and Sendspace... Took about 2x 1:30hours...

Enjoy!

dreamstorephoto · « **Reply #19 on:** February 14, 2009, 10:07:14 AM »

Skorj... I assisted for Rankin. Im not one to bitch so i wont say what happened on here, but lets just say i heartily agree with your comment!!!

ps he almost ALWAYS ALWAYS shoots digital.

Ailsa · « **Reply #20 on:** February 22, 2009, 09:29:30 AM »

I watched a repeat of this last night and really enjoyed it. I feel the title is a bit misleading, though - to say that the photographs changed fashion is a bit inaccurate, don't you think? I'd say they were more led by the fashion/zeitgeist/whatever - not that that detracts from the power of the photographs Rankin chose to attempt to replicate.

I thought his Guy Bourdain effort was pants, but quite liked the Bailey one. Perhaps that worked because Bailey was there on the scene and they already knew each other?

This-is-damion · « **Reply #21 on:** February 22, 2009, 04:12:04 PM »

...still irks me he had assistants to wind the camera & pull the pola test prints outs. Although they had a somewhat cushier number than Capa's assistants, i understand he got through 14 "winders" during the d day landings alone.

Francois · « **Reply #22 on:** February 22, 2009, 04:56:06 PM »

I must admit the winder assistant made me smile... just imagine this on his C.V.:
-Official Rolleiflex winder for Rankin