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Sheet film cutting advice please
« on: March 13, 2018, 06:01:20 PM »
Hi guys
 I have picked up (hopefully) a good deal on ebay of some dental x-ray film but it is 6"x12" so I was looking for some hints and tricks of how to cut it down to 4x5" without damaging it. I tried my mat cutter and a paper cutter  but both have turned it a little scratchy. There is150 sheets so I have a bit of room for experimentation but a headstart would come in handy.
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Re: Sheet film cutting advice please
« Reply #1 on: March 13, 2018, 06:24:15 PM »
I use a guillotine style paper cutter to cut 8x10 down to 4x5. I tried the 'sliding blade' style and that didn't work at all. As long as I am careful and keep the red light dim and distant, I don't have any problems. I am cutting regular Clinic Select Green though, so maybe the dental stuff is more delicate.
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Re: Sheet film cutting advice please
« Reply #2 on: March 13, 2018, 06:43:50 PM »
dental x-ray film but it is 6"x12"

You'd need some mouth to get a sheet of that inside  :o
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Re: Sheet film cutting advice please
« Reply #3 on: March 13, 2018, 07:47:30 PM »
I cut my Arista Ortho Litho with scissors, though it doesn't need to get a lot removed on one side in order to fit.

If you want to be original you can always try pinking shears  ;D
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Re: Sheet film cutting advice please
« Reply #4 on: March 13, 2018, 10:13:12 PM »
I've been wanting to do this too for my plate cameras.  The most practical method I have found on line is in a post by Cliff Manley at photo.net where he illustrates cutting down 120 to 6x9 sheets using plastic templates:
https://www.photo.net/discuss/threads/easy-way-to-handle-plate-camera-film.323294/

I have Rada and Rollex roll film backs which are more convenient, but it seems like it would be fun to use the sheet film backs which I have never tried.

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Re: Sheet film cutting advice please
« Reply #5 on: March 14, 2018, 12:50:17 AM »
Hi

For the last 10 years Ive been using the guillotine style paper cutter to cut down sheet film (Xray) of various sizes. I find it easiest to have two cutters, one with a stop taped to one dimension (say 8" of the 8x10 size) and the other to the 10" dimension. That way you can cut all your film to the first dimension, then move the stack of film to the next paper cutter and cut the second dimension. I do this because 8x10 feels just about square in the dark. 4x5 is simmilar but 5x7 is less of a problem.

Ive tried a number of safelights and despite what you may read, most xray film will fog with a red light to some degree. Having the stops taped down to the paper cutter really helps to index the film correctly and elliminate the need for a red light.

Xray film has very thin emulsion on both sides (Agfa Mamo-ray doesnt but its horrible to work with) so you need to have that paper cutter both clean and smooth before use. The stuff will just abou scratch by looking at it, especially when wet,  so once the film is on the paper cutter DONT slide it around. The same goes for developing, I use glass tanks where it can be hung vertically, and its about the only way Ive found to avoid scratches.  Just recently however I heard that ziplock bags can be used to develop in, if your carefull, as they are smooth on the inside....I have not tried this myself though.

Hope this helps,
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Re: Sheet film cutting advice please
« Reply #6 on: March 14, 2018, 01:11:24 PM »
Just recently however I heard that ziplock bags can be used to develop in, if your carefull, as they are smooth on the inside....I have not tried this myself though.

I very much like this. it feels so wrong and right at the same time :D
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Re: Sheet film cutting advice please
« Reply #7 on: March 14, 2018, 05:47:06 PM »
Heh heh....

Someone just told me about this at a camera show this last weekend...it really sounds like it could work. ;)
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Re: Sheet film cutting advice please
« Reply #8 on: March 14, 2018, 07:18:30 PM »
The one thing I'd suggest if you use a rotary cutter is to put the emulsion side 'down'.

I got far fewer scratches, I think because I was able to place my fingers on the back of the sheets without fear of finger prints, and therefore it was easier to hold it firmly. 

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Re: Sheet film cutting advice please
« Reply #9 on: March 14, 2018, 07:19:29 PM »
Just recently however I heard that ziplock bags can be used to develop in, if your carefull, as they are smooth on the inside....I have not tried this myself though.

I very much like this. it feels so wrong and right at the same time :D

It seems like the bags would make it easy to spill chemistry.  I use the Ziploc disposable containers.  As wasteful as these containers are I have not disposed of one yet.  after developing you can snap the lid on to save chemistry for later. 

https://ziploc.com/en/products/containers

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Re: Sheet film cutting advice please
« Reply #10 on: March 14, 2018, 08:06:32 PM »
Thanks for the suggestions guys.
 I had seen the ziplock bag idea while looking around the web for way to cut the sheets down but the tubs do seem like a better way.
 Mike in that link there was a way to do it with a couple of sheets of perspex which seem feasible as i have some about somewhere I'll have to check out if its useable
Many thanks again