Topic: New film shooter

[ShivaYash]

Hello to all and greetings from Melbourne. I've not shot film in ten years so pretty excited. Just got hold of a roll of Agfa Vista 400. Can I push this?


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[jojonas~]

welcome to the forum. hm... maybe our resident colorpusher indofunk can give you advice?

http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=8262.msg110119#msg110119

[mono]

Welcome to FADU!

[Sandeha Lynch]

Welcome to FADU!

Folker, are you lost?   

[Francois]

Welcome!
Color film can be pushed, but most most "consumer" labs won't do it. And then pro labs often ask for a premium to do it.
The best way is the diy approach.

But considering the latitude of color films, you can get away with a lot more than expected.

[Indofunk]

Hello Mr. Yash! Can I ask if your username has anything to do with your ethnicity? I only ask because mine does

welcome to the forum. hm... maybe our resident colorpusher indofunk can give you advice?

http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=8262.msg110119#msg110119

Although I suppose I *am* the resident color pusher, I don't really have enough experience with it to give you definitive advice. All of my experiences are in that linked thread So all I can say is that some color films push better than others, in-date film is best to push, and I'd definitely recommend home-pushing as opposed to lab-pushing due to availability and cost. Another option would be to get some Portra 400 and push it to 1600 and (lab) process normally.

Good luck, and do report your results!

-Satish

[macfred]

... Another option would be to get some Portra 400 and push it to 1600 and (lab) process normally.

Great results, Satish ! No pushing, but underexposing ... 
The Brothers Wright did the same with Portra 400 and FUJI Pro 400H http://www.twinlenslife.com/2010/12/its-our-favorite-time-of-light-new.html

[Indofunk]

... Another option would be to get some Portra 400 and push it to 1600 and (lab) process normally.

Great results, Satish ! No pushing, but underexposing ... 
The Brothers Wright did the same with Portra 400 and FUJI Pro 400H http://www.twinlenslife.com/2010/12/its-our-favorite-time-of-light-new.html

Ok, vocabulary time here: is "pushing" (and pulling) *only* used to refer to processing? So when you say "I pushed some Tri-X today" that means that you developed it longer? I.e., I can't say that I pushed Tri-X to 1600 until and unless I've souped it? I never quite did understand that part of our terminology

Those are some great tests of Portra vs Fuji Pro! I'm gaining respect for Portra day by day But I think I'll continue using nice cheap Gold and push it at home for my purposes

[Late Developer]

If you look at the UK Film Lab website, that had (probably still have) a section which shows just how far you can go before colour shifts and loss of detail.  They will also push film (at a cost per stop).  See below:

http://ukfilmlab.com/2014/03/10/pushing-the-boundaries-tri-x-at-6400-and-reala-at-800/

Incidentally, I am not connected with them in any way other than as a very satisfied customer - albeit I have never asked them to push process film for me.

[jharr]

Ok, vocabulary time here: is "pushing" (and pulling) *only* used to refer to processing? So when you say "I pushed some Tri-X today" that means that you developed it longer? I.e., I can't say that I pushed Tri-X to 1600 until and unless I've souped it? I never quite did understand that part of our terminology

Those are some great tests of Portra vs Fuji Pro! I'm gaining respect for Portra day by day But I think I'll continue using nice cheap Gold and push it at home for my purposes

Pushing means under-exposing and over-developing. Pulling is over-exposing and under-developing. So if you are shooting Tri-x at 1600 with the intent of having very contrasty low key photos, process it normally. Otherwise "push process" it and get a fuller tonal range. I suppose you could expose at box speed and still push process if you wanted blown highlights and mids.

[macfred]

When you push film, you are basically underexposing the film by a stop or two, so when processing the film in the darkroom setting you must add additional time in the development process to ensure your film is developed properly ...

- taken from  textbook for filmphotography

[macfred]

Another interesting comparison from  the UK Film Lab : Kodak Portra and Fuji film stock and exposure comparisons

http://ukfilmlab.com/2014/04/24/film-stock-and-exposure-comparisons-kodak-portra-and-fuji/

It's hard to go wrong with modern colour negative film ...

[gsgary]

If you look at the UK Film Lab website, that had (probably still have) a section which shows just how far you can go before colour shifts and loss of detail.  They will also push film (at a cost per stop).  See below:

http://ukfilmlab.com/2014/03/10/pushing-the-boundaries-tri-x-at-6400-and-reala-at-800/

Incidentally, I am not connected with them in any way other than as a very satisfied customer - albeit I have never asked them to push process film for me.

This lab is walking distance for me

[mono]

Welcome to FADU!

Folker, are you lost?   

oooppss!!
Sorry!
Too many forums (fora)  I´m in

Anyway: Welcome!

[Indofunk]

When you push film, you are basically underexposing the film by a stop or two, so when processing the film in the darkroom setting you must add additional time in the development process to ensure your film is developed properly ...

- taken from  textbook for filmphotography

Ok, so pushing and pulling refer to the entire process of under/overexposing film and compensating in developing. So while the tr-x @1600 is sitting in my camera, it's simply underexposed. It does not officially become pushed until I develop it Thanks!

[Late Developer]

This lab is walking distance for me

Well, I can't rate them highly enough. They've processed and scanned the output from our last two holidays and anything I want doing where the end result is important to me, they'll be doing that as well.  I don't mind processing stuff that I can repeat shoot but I love their service, even if it isn't exactly two day turnaround....

[Francois]

Ok, so pushing and pulling refer to the entire process of under/overexposing film and compensating in developing. So while the tr-x @1600 is sitting in my camera, it's simply underexposed. It does not officially become pushed until I develop it Thanks!

The correct way of saying is would be:
Exposed Tri-X 400 ISO at EI 1600 and push processed 2 stops...
EI stands for Exposure Index.

Like when I use expired film, it comes out as Kodak Gold 200 exposed at EI 100 and processed normally.

[gsgary]

This lab is walking distance for me

Well, I can't rate them highly enough. They've processed and scanned the output from our last two holidays and anything I want doing where the end result is important to me, they'll be doing that as well.  I don't mind processing stuff that I can repeat shoot but I love their service, even if it isn't exactly two day turnaround....

I have never used them but will be if I shoot more colour and slide

[ShivaYash]

Thanks for all these replies. Yes I'm Indian, but was born and raised in London. I am presently in Melbourne.


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[ShivaYash]

I'm nearly half way through my roll of Agfa Vista 400. Next up will be XP2. Around 15 years ago I use to shoot at least one roll a week! No access to a darkroom anymore so will reply on labs. Anyone used West End Cameras?


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[Late Developer]

Anyone used West End Cameras?

Yes, occasionally.  They seem reasonably priced for film - especially if you buy from their e b a y site.  If you visit the shop, in person, the nearest tube station is Goodge St (at the north end of Tottenham Court Road).

Personally, I tend to use Ag Photographic in Birmingham as I've always been happy with their mail order service and their prices (though, to be fair, I don't to a lot of shopping around to find cheapest once I've found someone reliable).

[ShivaYash]

Really loving Kodak ColourPlus 200. This was overexposed by 1 stop and I think for peanuts is pretty sweet. I picked up three rolls on eBay.au from Thailand for 15 AUD. Around £7.50 for three rolls.


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[ShivaYash]

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[ShivaYash]

Anyone used West End Cameras?

Yes, occasionally.  They seem reasonably priced for film - especially if you buy from their e b a y site.  If you visit the shop, in person, the nearest tube station is Goodge St (at the north end of Tottenham Court Road).

Personally, I tend to use Ag Photographic in Birmingham as I've always been happy with their mail order service and their prices (though, to be fair, I don't to a lot of shopping around to find cheapest once I've found someone reliable).

I've used West End for a long time but was shocked to see their Kodak ColourPlus film pack was more expensive than their single rolls! Same goes for their eBay site. So do check first to save some hard earned £s.


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