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scanner dilema
« on: August 06, 2014, 06:23:42 PM »
My old scanner has packed up and I have to make the decision on a new one. So I was wondering if you guys have either one of these two scanners,  Epson V500 or the Canoscan 9000f and what are your thoughts one them.

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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #1 on: August 06, 2014, 06:43:26 PM »
Agfa APX100 scanned with a V500, works for me


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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #2 on: August 06, 2014, 07:03:57 PM »
I have a V500 that I purchased refubished in January. The 35mm mask broke in one place pretty quickly, though it's still useable. Last week it inexplicably died and through some combination of driver reinstalls, repeated restarts, switching USB ports, and calling upon the dark spirit of Zuul, it came back to life, and has since successfully scanned 3 or 4 rolls. So I guess I'm saying, I don't know what?

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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #3 on: August 06, 2014, 08:31:53 PM »
There's only one way to know which is best: compare Dmax values!
The higher the Dmax, the denser the negative it can scan and the more depth the scans till have.

Years ago when I was shopping, I did compare the Epson and the Canon. Canon didn't mention the Dmax. So I called their tech support to get that information but nobody at Canon had any information on this!

So I ended-up getting an Epson...
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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #4 on: August 06, 2014, 08:53:47 PM »
I bought a v550, works great for me but I'm a scanning novice

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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #5 on: August 06, 2014, 09:03:05 PM »
Agfa APX100 scanned with a V500, works for me



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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #6 on: August 06, 2014, 09:06:59 PM »
Agfa APX100 scanned with a V500, works for me



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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #7 on: August 06, 2014, 09:28:14 PM »
I don't use the Canon 9000f but rather its predecessor, the 8800, and I have had no complaints or problems with it. Quality seems good and it allows for some tweaking before the scan if you want it.
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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #8 on: August 06, 2014, 11:14:21 PM »
I've got a Canoscan 9000f and I think it does a passable job. I have yet to scan a neg or print that didn't need some tweaking though sometimes that tweaking is quite minimal. But, it's the only film scanner I've ever had so I have nothing to compare it to.

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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #9 on: August 07, 2014, 05:51:42 AM »
I've been playing with a friends Noritsu HS-1800!
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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #10 on: August 07, 2014, 08:49:06 AM »
I use an Epson V750 and have for many years.  I don't use the "liquid" thingy but I've been very happy with the output for the standard I require.
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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #11 on: August 07, 2014, 03:31:47 PM »
Depending on the formats you plan to scan, I should add that a "real" film scanner always produces better results than a flatbed. Images are much sharper.
You might want to heck out Reflecta. I heard their scanners are pretty mind blowing.
https://reflecta.de/en
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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #12 on: August 07, 2014, 03:42:32 PM »
Two things that cause me to prefer the Epson are the software and theoretical film suspension height.  The EpsonScan software is more intuitive to me and flexible in terms of available options for tweaking.  The Epson also has a slightly higher film suspension height at 1.0 mm versus .70 mm.  That difference isn't much it does help minimize the chance of Newton Rings.  Additionally, the true optimal film suspension height on the Epson is often over 1.5 mm so that helps even more.

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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #13 on: August 07, 2014, 04:06:41 PM »
Interesting about the suspension height.  Maybe I'll re-attach the little grommets that I removed from the film holder to make it sit more "flush" with the lenses. Shows what I (don't know) on this subject, eh!!??

I'd like a bespoke film scanner as I have seen some files from 35mm film produced by Minolta and Nikon film scanners and they certainly look crisper before whizzing them through Photoshop / Lightroom than those I get with my V750.  However, the V750 can also scan MF and it will do up to 10x8 (which is handy as I've just got an MPP 5x4).

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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2014, 08:25:21 PM »
MF and large format are the places where a flatbed really shines.
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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #15 on: August 07, 2014, 08:52:07 PM »
Depending on the formats you plan to scan, I should add that a "real" film scanner always produces better results than a flatbed. Images are much sharper.
You might want to heck out Reflecta. I heard their scanners are pretty mind blowing.
https://reflecta.de/en

Yeah some of their prices are mind blowing also :)!!

Thanks for the responses guys and girls.
 I will be mostly scanning  MF and 35mm but hope to move up to 4x5 by  the end of the year. I have to realistically keep it sub £300 so although I would like the V700/750 they are above my price range. I think it'll be the epson judging by peoples' responses.

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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #16 on: August 07, 2014, 10:47:01 PM »
I'm with Doug on the software. I've tried both and the epson software was more user friendly. output seems similar  between them though.
so a few years ago I picked a epson v600 over the canon 8800 or 9000
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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #17 on: August 08, 2014, 12:31:27 AM »
The Epson software is nice and easy to use. The v700 I use also came with silverscan. When I care I use it and it does a nice job but has an absolutely HORRID interface.
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Re: scanner dilema
« Reply #18 on: August 08, 2014, 01:09:25 AM »
Most people have not use more advanced flatbeds. I used a Fuji finescan for many years at work, it was a wonderful XY scanner with 2 scan heads, 4 lenses. It has a large 18x14 inch bed. dmax 3, something iirc. I spent a lot of time scanning 8x11 or 11x17 inch transparencies (non photo btw) with that. I have not directly compared to recent scanners, but I recall how good it was for scanning film. It was great because they don't require a film holders of any kind. I recall filling the entire 18x14 with bed with 35mm slides for a small archiving project.
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