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Mamiya 6 Tips
« on: June 23, 2014, 10:16:34 PM »
Hi All,

A photojournalist I know is looking to buy a Mamiya 6 to shoot stories with along side her digital camera. Does anyone here have experience with that camera and any tips for what to look for when buying one?  And also when using one?

Thanks!

GT

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Re: Mamiya 6 Tips
« Reply #1 on: June 24, 2014, 03:00:26 AM »
Have not used one extensively but I sort of like the original new mamiya 6 instead of the MF (multi format) version as it has a cleaner finder as the MF version has frame lines for 645. Some people do like the panoramic adapter for the MF when using 35mm film it captures at 24 × 54 mm.
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Re: Mamiya 6 Tips
« Reply #2 on: June 24, 2014, 08:42:57 AM »
Hi Debbie.

How are you? Hope you're fit and well.

I had a Mamiya 7 for years and, as far as I know, the lenses I had were very similar in optical design to the Mamiya 6 and, therefore, stellar (I had the 43mm, 65mm and 150mm lenses).

However, I was never a big fan of the 6x7 format and tried out a Mamiya 6 briefly.  There are only 3 lenses (50mm, 75mm and 150mm) which is fine but, as with the Mamiya 7, they don't focus closer than 1 metre.  I think there's a closer-focusing attachment but I couldn't be bothered trying to hunt one down.

The body and a couple of lenses will pack down fairly compact. In fact, the front of the body "collapses" allowing the standard lens to recess into the body to save weight.  The ONLY critical issue I've ever heard people mention is that you need to be careful not to damage this mechanism as getting it fixed could be difficult - especially if you need any spare parts.

All of that said, they are fabulous little cameras and I know there's a couple of FW members who've had them, sold them and regretted doing so.

If I'm honest, unless you can get 220 film, I'd be amazed that a photojournalist would want to run a Mamiya 6 alongside a DSLR, as changing film every 12 shots could be a bit restrictive. Also, you're stuck with one ISO rating and manual focusing via a rangefinder. At least with digital you can change the ISO to suit the prevailing conditions.  I'm not a photojournalist but if I was shooting, say, a Nikon D4 and wanted to shoot film as well, I'd buy an F5 or F6 and get the benefit of sharing lenses.  It just depends whether the photojournalist is prepared to be slowed down in favour of enhanced image quality or whether autofocus and variable ISO are a greater consideration.
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Re: Mamiya 6 Tips
« Reply #3 on: June 24, 2014, 10:31:32 AM »
Hi,
Thanks for the info. She is going to still use her DSLR, but she wants to add a Mamiya 6 for a long term story she's doing. She's not doing spot news, but rather embedding in areas for more investigative stories and she wants to be able to shoot film for certain things.

I think it's great. She's getting assignments from major magazines and doing really well, but young and hasn't ever shot film (only digital) so I was helping her with that, and it was funny because I was talking to her about the different films and when I mentioned slide film she said, "What's slide film?" But she explained to me the project she wants to use film for and it makes sense.

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Re: Mamiya 6 Tips
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2014, 11:10:26 AM »
I have a Mamiya 6.  It's my main camera and I love it.  Love it, love it.  Though it looks big, it's well balanced and handles very nicely.  I've had all three lenses but now use only the 50mm.  The 75mm is also nice.  The 150mm is probably not worth getting.  The close focusing issue gets in the way of it being a good close portrait lens.

Most kits are sold as body and 75mm.  The 50mm is the most pricey.  I got all my Mamiya 6 gear from ebay dealers in Japan and have had nothing but good experiences with them.

The lens collapses easily into the body for packing into a bag.  Wonderful, extremely quiet vibration-free leaf shutters, wonderful, wonderful.  Not real fast lenses (f4; f3.5) but it's easy to handhold 1/15 and 1/8 is doable (and even 1/4 and 1/2 but I wouldn't bank on one-offs of those shots).  The one issue you read about is the film advance lever.  There is a reverse thread screw keeping everything together (accessible if you pull the rubber top back), and sometimes it gets loose.  I went through a period where I had to tighten it every couple rolls but that was a couple years ago and haven't had any issues since. But I still keep a knife in my bag just in case -- the screw slot is very thin and you need a thin knife blade (or a special tool) to turn the screw.
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Re: Mamiya 6 Tips
« Reply #5 on: June 24, 2014, 03:09:31 PM »
I once heard that there was a light baffling issue with the meter sensor n some models... but it was so long ago that I don't remember clearly.

You might want to look at these
http://web.archive.org/web/20060504130755/http://www.photo.net/photo/mamiya-6.html
http://web.archive.org/web/20060421232106/http://www.kenrockwell.com/mamiya/6.htm
http://web.archive.org/web/20060427184317/http://www.kenrockwell.com/mamiya/6vs7.htm

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Re: Mamiya 6 Tips
« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2014, 09:39:29 PM »
Hi All,

A photojournalist I know is looking to buy a Mamiya 6 to shoot stories with along side her digital camera. Does anyone here have experience with that camera and any tips for what to look for when buying one?  And also when using one?

Thanks!

GT
Experience: yes, I use one and if you like rangefinders then you'll probably enjoy this one, finder is large and bright and easy to focus. Changing lenses is slower than some because there is a manually operated dark slide you need to work twice during a lens change. A big plus for the Bronica RF645 is that this is automated when you release/install the lens. Makes a difference. Seriously consider just choosing a lens and sticking with it. As others have said it is a very compact system for the quality of neg you get - big and sharp (if you want sharp). I have found the depth of field scale on lenses is a bit optimistic, probably want to test but may find yourself stopping down 1 or even 2 stops from what the scale says. Meter: cell is easy to block (or catch non-image light), may want to brush up on handheld meter technique and /or use an exposure guide to double check.
Buying: they aren't cheap so I'd suggest using somewhere with some kind of warranty in case the thing turns out not to be reliable. As others have said parts may be a problem since it is quite an old model now. If you don't break it it will probably hold its value quite well for resale at the end of the project.
Let us know how it goes!

Dave.

PS the additional frame lines in the MF don't bother me and there seem to be a lot of MF models on the market so don't necessarily rule that option out.
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Re: Mamiya 6 Tips
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2014, 09:52:48 PM »
One thing to consider, the 6 is brilliantly compact with the 75mm collapsed, but I´m sceptical towards it´s durability.
The bellow on mine "miss folded" (is that even a word?) and I figured that the price jump to the 7ii was worth it, including the access to the brilliant!! 43mm lens that can get you that one shot the 50mm on the 6 just can´t get you. In use they are both just super! Big cheap plastic Leicas with world class glass ;)
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