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Janet_P

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Aerial photography
« on: June 20, 2007, 12:10:13 PM »
Anybody got any advice on this? My brother has been taking flying lessons and will soon be able to do solo flights. I've plucked up the courage to ask him if I can go up with him (flying is not my favourite thing) and take some pictures out the window.
Any pointers, technical advice or just some photos to show me would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

Janet

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Re: Aerial photography
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2007, 01:34:45 PM »
Steve Mulligan does a lot of aerial photography, and always uses an ISO 400 film (think it's usually HP5 Plus). He also shoots at quite wide apertures, keeping the shutter speeds as fast as possible, because the vibration cause by the aircraft is so great.

His website is http://www.mulliganphotography.com

Have fun! You're braver than me, though - I hate flying!

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« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2007, 01:46:36 PM »
I have used a Diana Clone and an Olympus Epic to make photos on commercial flights, and can only offer a few tips.....

If you are using a manual camera you can focus the scene through the window  no problem.  A fixed focus camera won't matter much
-an auto focus camera may focus on the window and not the scene through it.

Also consider bracketing since you are shooting through more glass.
It also helps to put the camera lens as close as possible to the window as a way to avoid reflections and glare, unless you want to incorporate them as effects.
Or a polarizer filter.

Turn off the flash, ( probably not good to have it fire in a small cockpit.)

Have fun!  This sounds so exciting! :)


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Re: Aerial photography
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2007, 02:39:00 PM »
Good if it's a Cessna, or another high-wing aircraft- otherwise there is always a wing in the way.

Many charter companies are used to photography flights and will take the door off for you so you can shoot through a decent opening- but you'll get cold. Shooting through the perspex is pretty sad by comparison.

Slow film is fine (ie Velvia for saturation) but yes you want 1/500th sec to keep the vibration at bay. If it's tran I usually shoot on auto, but clip-test the roll.

Early morning or late afternoon is best for interesting shapes and contours on the ground. Full sun and blue sky for best colour (and enough light for the slow film).

Low altitude ( 1000 feet or whatever your local minimum alt.), will lessen the UV haze problem. Use  a Polarizer or at least a UV. Clear winter days offer much cleaner air than the heat haze of a hot summer.

Have fun




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Re: Aerial photography
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2007, 02:54:16 PM »
How could I forget! Check out the work of Jackie Ranken - flippin' soooo-perb.

http://www.canoncameras.com.au/about/press_room/story_1173.html

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Re: Aerial photography
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2007, 03:08:19 PM »
Hi Ailsa,

Was it J Rankin that featured in B&W a while back..was just about to mention it, but im guessing you just have!
Either way, it was really very good, good use of the landsape and shadows.   Wouldnt mind giving it a go myself but im guessing its a lot harder than it looks!

Either way im sure the flight itself will be fun.

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Re: Aerial photography
« Reply #6 on: June 20, 2007, 03:42:31 PM »
Was it J Rankin that featured in B&W a while back..

That's the one! She appeared in the February 2007 issue. Of course, if the magazine had a website, I'd be able to link you straight to the feature itself but... yes, well...  :-[

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Re: Aerial photography
« Reply #7 on: June 20, 2007, 04:27:40 PM »
Ailsa, I remember reading that article, it was fascinating and one of the things I had in mind when I asked to do the flight. I'm not sure that I'll be letting Michael do loop the loops though  ;)

I'll make sure that I have a polarizer with me and use as fast a shutter speed as possible - because I'll be shaking with nerves as much as anything else...

Janet
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Re: Aerial photography
« Reply #8 on: June 20, 2007, 08:03:14 PM »
my favourite part about that article was the man who wrote in to argue the type  of plane used.  The article said one thing -he said another  and went on to back it up...quite a lot i recall. 


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Re: Aerial photography
« Reply #9 on: June 20, 2007, 09:29:37 PM »
Hi Janet_P, I?m new here, and this is a great topic to start with, as I?m a pilot and had an aerial photo business on the East Coast.

Any camera will work, but I think the nicest photos are those taken at low altitude, around 500 to 1000 feet above ground, with a wide angle to normal lens.  This shows detail in objects close to the aircraft and also gives a nice distance perspective.  I used 28-35mm lenses on a 35mm Nikon and 55-75mm lenses on a Pentax 67.  A wider lens will image part of the wing or landing gear, and a longer lens will be more likely to show vibration or blur.  Use the highest shutter speed possible, as the lens aperture can be wide open. 

Like someone mentioned, the best aircraft is a Cessna 172 or similar, with a window that can be opened fully.  Shooting through a plastic window is never as good as an open window.  The window of most Cessnas will open wide enough to shoot through, and if you are inclined, you can easily remove the screw from the window support brace, which allows the window to open flat against the wing in flight.  Just remember to reinstall the screw after landing.  Low wing airplanes are more difficult to use, but still most have a small vent window that opens, allowing a clear area to shoot through.

Whatever airplane, keep the camera strap around your neck, and the camera inside so that the airflow rushing by outside does not vibrate the camera.  And finally, an airplane with an open window is very LOUD, so if possible wear a headset, allowing communication with the pilot in flight.

Good luck, and enjoy!

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Re: Aerial photography
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2007, 12:01:56 PM »
Thanks Seres, that's really useful. Do you have any images I could look at - I'm interested in the angles I could get, plus I'd love to see what you've taken.

Welcome to Filmwasters.  :)

Janet

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Re: Aerial photography
« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2007, 05:35:16 PM »
I would love to show some images, but I use film exclusively--most of my aerial work was with a medium format P67?and unfortunately I do not have a scanner, yet.  So until I buy a scanner (probably the next six months), I have no way to get these images on the web.

Anyway, the distance you include in the shot will depend on the atmospheric haze.  On the East Coast, visibility was seldom greater than 5 miles, so I usually kept the distance perspective to 3 miles or so, to keep the distance visible and not a gray mass.  On rare days with greater visibility, you can include more distance perspective by slightly adjusting the angle of the airplane to keep the wing or landing gear out of the shot.

Most of my aerial work was commercial, mainly for real estate clients, and was usually taken an hour before and after noon to minimize shadows.  However, my favorite pictures were taken either early or late in the day, within a hour of sunrise or sunset, when the sun is very low, to maximize shadows and add more dimension to the scenes.

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Re: Aerial photography
« Reply #12 on: June 23, 2007, 03:32:42 PM »
I know this will sound stupid but make sure you're solidly tied to the plane. I heard a full body harness can be highly recommended if you plan on taking the door out.

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Re: Aerial photography
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2007, 01:41:08 PM »
On the off chance that you ever see photo books about Orkney, then chances are that Gunnie Moberg will have been the photographer. Very little to see online that I can find but here's a link about her

http://www.hi-arts.co.uk/feb04_feature01.htm

I love her work and she did a brilliant book collaboration with the poet George Mackay Brown.  Superb aerial images.
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Re: Aerial photography
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2007, 02:44:33 PM »
thanks for this link Karl - I love all things Orcadian -  especially GMB, but I've never heard of Gunnie Moberg.  I'm intruiged to find out more now.
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