Topic: Polaroid experiments....

[astrobeck]

I got antsy, and decided to try something.
First I shot a quick photo of my kitchen windowsill with my Crown Graphic loaded with Polaroid.
I made this photo by scanning the paper backing that you separate from the Polaroid print.
This is _not_ the kind of Polaroid that makes a negative, just the usual type 664 that makes a print that separates from the throw away black paper that has the ghostlike image on it that's usually tossed in the trash..
I decided to save that paper, and then scanned it after letting it dry in the Sun.  I wanted to see if it would Solarize like a real negative would.

So, I scanned the black side, lightened it up a bit and then inverted it.

What do you think?  Should I pursue this?


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[moominsean]

i made a group for this on flickr awhile back:

http://www.flickr.com/groups/22014293@N00/

fun stuff!

[Francois]

Why not?
As they say: don't look a gift horse in the mouth!

When it's free, you keep it. You never know when it's going to come in handy.

The image does have a nice raw quality to it.

[Susan B.]

love the raw, grittiness to this Beck.
I'm a huge lover of manipulated polaroids.
That was actually my first love prior to plastic.
Keep em coming!!!!

[kuru]

I try and save almost all the paper negs from polas. You never know what you're going to get when you try and scan them. I really like using 669 negs that I've used for image transfers. You get a lot of strange textures from the transfer process:



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[Skorj]

I love goop! Goop is your friend. ISO3000 appears to have the best goop. Fuji stuff has little goop. Color goop is hard, though some get it going quite well. Shooting for goop in the field becomes messy, you need somewhere to lay them out to dry, trim them and stuff like that. Type-665 sticks are a moderate fix (excuse the pun), but you've still gotta let that dry as well...

Still, for edgy (geddit?) Polaroids, goop is right up there with pos/neg, cheaper, and will still be available in a range of formats too. LONG LIVE THE GOOP!

<insert suitable image of skj with goop up to his ears>

[artpunk]

What do you think?  Should I pursue this?

Oh boy yes. I love these kind of experimental excursions. The result you have here is really nice Beck, you should get antsy more often!
 

[Francois]

I love goop! Goop is your friend. ISO3000 appears to have the best goop. Fuji stuff has little goop. Color goop is hard, though some get it going quite well. Shooting for goop in the field becomes messy, you need somewhere to lay them out to dry, trim them and stuff like that. Type-665 sticks are a moderate fix (excuse the pun), but you've still gotta let that dry as well...

Still, for edgy (geddit?) Polaroids, goop is right up there with pos/neg, cheaper, and will still be available in a range of formats too. LONG LIVE THE GOOP!

<insert suitable image of skj with goop up to his ears>

Skorj's faborite cartoon: the adventures of Betty Goop 

[astrobeck]

Thanks for the encouragment everyone! 
I think "goop" may be my latest vice!

What do you all  store your cleared and/or paper negative remains in once they are dry while out in the field?

Sleeves?
Flat box?

[lauraburlton]

I would sleeve them. Just out of criosity , could you use these t contact print in the darkroom you think? Or would they only make good scans....have not bought any polaroid in a while now so I cannot remember what this stuff really looks like.
Vive la goop!

[moominsean]

photohop defnly helps them work as photos...the orginals are very flat and gray. so i'm not sure how well a contact print would work. plus the paper is pretty thick and black on the reverse side.
for storage i just cut off the 'tab' side and stack them. in the field, i sometimes use an empty polaroid cartridge to carry one in while wet. depends on how humid it is. in LA, it took them hours to dry, so i only kept a few, but here in arizona they dry usually within 10 minutes. i just scrape off the goop that is piled on one end so it doesn't smear all over everything. i used to leave all the paper on, but now i peel it off...
it does add a nice ambiguity to a photo. sometimes i like the goop better than the print.
sean

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[Francois]

What do you all  store your cleared and/or paper negative remains in once they are dry while out in the field?

Sleeves?
Flat box?

I would definitely sleeve them if you can find sheets that will fit them... fewer problems with scratching involved.
But I would also try and high-res scan all of them... just in case the backing is not "archival" and self destroys... we never know when it comes to experiments like that

[artpunk]

Woah Sean, those examples you show are fantastic, especially that first one, I just love it. Speaking as a health professional however I wish to remind everyone that desirable as goop might be to some of you, you weird sick people  it is rather caustic and nasty and if you get any onya as the late great Frank Zappa might have said, wash it off quick!

[Skorj]

Woah Sean, those examples you show are fantastic, especially that first one, I just love it.

Nice indeed. A great example too of how the goop can solarize too...

[rolo]

I've played with this a little, but was wondering what the consensus is about handling the "negatives" for scanning.  Do you let them dry then scan, or do you let them dry, wash the residual blue goo off, dry again, and then scan, or what?  The one's I've done have been rinsed (someone suggested that), but I was wondering if I'm washing away gooey goodness. . . .



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[Skorj]

I've played with this a little, but was wondering what the consensus is about handling the "negatives" for scanning.  Do you let them dry then scan, or do you let them dry, wash the residual blue goo off, dry again, and then scan, or what?  The one's I've done have been rinsed (someone suggested that), but I was wondering if I'm washing away gooey goodness. . . .

I let mine dry, then scan. Washing I've not done. See Sean's Fickle group for an example. Non solarized, and coated with a Type-665 fixer stick which is great to 'fix' wetness in the field. They dry in three minutes, instead of three hours this way. You can restack back in the box and place them in your pocket, without concern of too much sticking...

The stick does add some streaks. Which may appeal... Welcome here too Rolo. Skj.

[rolo]

BTW, I've only washed color negs (successfully).  If you wash the b&w negs (e.g., 667), the whole emulsion layer washes right off. . .

[Skorj]

BTW, I've only washed color negs (successfully).  If you wash the b&w negs (e.g., 667), the whole emulsion layer washes right off. . .

I might try color washing too then. Arigato.

Now that you mention washing 667, I can recall doing this once inadvertently and watching the emulsion slide right off like a bubblegum tattoo... Coming next; comments about emulsion lifts for B&W.

[astrobeck]

One last photo with the goop stuff and since I've depleted my small supply of Polaroid,
I won't be posting any more goopiness until that Brown truck gets here next week with more goop!

Thanks for the comments and the additional shots posted here!!!
  It's helped me realize my brain is just full of goop now.

 

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[Skorj]

One last photo with the goop stuff and since I've depleted my small supply of Polaroid,

Photographs taken around the house as test shots often look just that, but HOT DAMN, this is wicked. Assuming this was a test shot anyway, excuse me if it isn't because its damn nice regardless. Looking forward to seeing more of your goop too then.

Here's one more:

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[beck]

Those are all prime kobe beef examples of the gwop. I never had any of mine solorize while scanning/inverting till I started using the SE recently...just as well...can't seem to get it in gear...horrid results with the prints...but interesting fixing up the other side....for about an hour or so. I just throw them in a small paperback dictionary till I get home...dust and all.

Here's one..



She reminds of, La Bete...