Author Topic: Video Podcast 06 Now Online: "A Load of Jackson Pollocks – May 2011" (Read 5499 times)

Ed Wenn · « **on:** May 11, 2011, 08:35:49 AM »

06: A Load of Jackson Pollocks - May 2011

Our sixth video podcast sees us giving in and upgrading to Vimeo+. Sweet! In this show we have Damion's report from Focus on Imaging 2011, Leon & Ed take a look at Ilford Harman's Direct Positive Paper and - after a short commercial break courtesy of François Laverdure - we close out with a look at Sean Rohde's excellent recent exhibtition, "Expired".

Featuring Sean Rohde, François Laverdure, Ed Wenn, Damion Rice & Leon Taylor.

http://filmwasters.com/podcast/

will_8 · « **Reply #1 on:** May 11, 2011, 09:44:04 AM »

I really want to try the harman positive paper but it seems a bit costly, especially as it looks like it will take a while to work it out.

Good podcast, made me laugh!

Andrea. · « **Reply #2 on:** May 11, 2011, 01:26:54 PM »

Ha!
Excellent. I must say that HDP paper is a bit tricky - but it does work. I've even seen it used for lith somewhere. [edit; or it might have been in caffenol http://caffenol.blogspot.com/2011/01/sidestep-direct-positive-paper.html ]

Ed Wenn · « **Reply #3 on:** May 11, 2011, 01:37:47 PM »

Clearly some people are having great success with Direct Pos Paper....I just enjoyed watching Leon be defeated by something photography-related for once.

jojonas~ · « **Reply #4 on:** May 11, 2011, 01:45:47 PM »

interesting with the positive paper! like what kind of iso where you handling it? I've read that most (negative) papers are around iso 6. but that is just considering light from the sun and not artificial light, as it's much less sensetive to the warmer tones I think.
but can you use any paper developer for it? I'd be interested to try it out~

about the expired show: tastefull hanging! fun with the cameras being there for viewing and a relaxing couch in the room.

and the "commercial" was great. more of that

LT · « **Reply #5 on:** May 11, 2011, 01:56:41 PM »

jojonas - the DPP paper is about iso 3. The problem is getting on top of the weird reciprocity characteristics. I can never quite get it right. too much faffing about for my tastes. You can use any paper developer with it.

Ed Wenn · « **Reply #6 on:** May 11, 2011, 02:42:38 PM »

Who liked the guy's orange jumper (sweater/pullover etc.) in Damion's section? I thought it was awesome!!

The other thing to look out for is something I missed the first time round, but which Leon spotted straightaway. In the speeded section when he's swooshing the dev around in the orbital developer, take a look at what Amy's doing just behind him; she's rotating her head in time with his dev action. Very, very funny. Also, I thought Leon handled the way my family got in the way very commendably (I edited most of it out...there was a lot more), but then he did used to be a social worker, so he's used to a bit of chaos

Suzi Livingstone · « **Reply #7 on:** May 11, 2011, 02:54:20 PM »

Great podcast.. is Francois transmitting from a mad scientists laboratory? Looks like it

jojonas~ · « **Reply #8 on:** May 11, 2011, 02:58:30 PM »

Quote from: ed.wenn on May 11, 2011, 02:42:38 PM

Who liked the guy's orange jumper (sweater/pullover etc.) in Damion's section? I thought it was awesome!!

The other thing to look out for is something I missed the first time round, but which Leon spotted straightaway. In the speeded section when he's swooshing the dev around in the orbital developer, take a look at what Amy's doing just behind him; she's rotating her head in time with his dev action. Very, very funny. Also, I thought Leon handled the way my family got in the way very commendably (I edited most of it out...there was a lot more), but then he did used to be a social worker, so he's used to a bit of chaos

good man that leon

mr. orange seemed to have the time of his life, all giggly infront of the girls

Francois · « **Reply #9 on:** May 11, 2011, 03:21:43 PM »

Quote from: Suzi Livingstone on May 11, 2011, 02:54:20 PM

is Francois transmitting from a mad scientists laboratory? Looks like it

Well... of course I was! That's was filmed in my office where most of my crazy contraption ideas come to life

Suzi Livingstone · « **Reply #10 on:** May 11, 2011, 03:33:40 PM »

Quote from: Francois on May 11, 2011, 03:21:43 PM

Quote from: Suzi Livingstone on May 11, 2011, 02:54:20 PM
is Francois transmitting from a mad scientists laboratory? Looks like it
Well... of course I was! That's was filmed in my office where most of my crazy contraption ideas come to life

Yep, looks like it

Mojave · « **Reply #11 on:** May 11, 2011, 04:06:27 PM »

Totally awesome!!! I really want to try that paper but if Leon had issues, Im afraid I wont be able to get anything out of it. Francois, your commercial had me in stitches! And congratulations again Sean, on your show!!

Mike (happyforest) · « **Reply #12 on:** May 11, 2011, 10:12:15 PM »

Great podcast guys.

Loved the benny hill bit, you even managed to get a blonde running around in the background.

Seriously now, the HD paper looks to be tricky but given the consistancy of the small number of portraits on it that I have seen from the focus exhibition it looks like you can get decent results. I'm surprised that Ilford\Harman haven't given more information on how to use it. After all it is in their interest that people continue to buy this paper.

However the thought of trying to work out what I need to do to correct it if it turn out black, more or less exposure would drive me crazy. I have enough problems trying to work out how to correct the meter reading when exposing against a white or black background.

Francois I'll place an order for the lens just as soon as my cut from tranfering funds for assisting some poor unfortunate goverment offical arrive from nigera\libya or america. Helping so many at present.
Mike

Andrea. · « **Reply #13 on:** May 11, 2011, 10:35:38 PM »

A little bit here http://www.thewebdarkroom.com/?p=509

Francois · « **Reply #14 on:** May 11, 2011, 10:37:40 PM »

Glad you all liked my crazy antics

I've always loved infomercials... the crappier the product and the stupider the claims, the more fun they seem to be

Quote from: happyforest on May 11, 2011, 10:12:15 PM

However the thought of trying to work out what I need to do to correct it if it turn out black, more or less exposure would drive me crazy. I have enough problems trying to work out how to correct the meter reading when exposing against a white or black background.

I've never tried it but would be tempted to simply say "do what you wouldn't normally do"

Since it's a positive medium, you have to use reverse thinking. If "white" light hits a regular negative, it turns black. So, if the same "white" light hits a non negative emulsion (like the Ilford Direct Positive), it becomes white. Just like slide film and Polaroid.

So, using the same thought process, if the print is mostly black you need to add more "white light" (exactly the opposite of regular darkroom work). And if the print is white, you have to give it less exposure.

Mike (happyforest) · « **Reply #15 on:** May 11, 2011, 10:59:21 PM »

Andrea

Thanks for the link, looks an intersting site.

The link mentions a article\review in January's B&W magazine.
Has anybody seen this?

Francois

I haven't tried it either and its a long time since I was last in the darkroom and had to think about these sort of things.

Mike

Randy B · « **Reply #16 on:** May 12, 2011, 01:00:32 AM »

I tried some positive paper a few years back in a pinhole camera just for kicks and had a miserable time with it as well. It wasn't ilford stuff though, I can't remember the brand, mostly because I never ever intended to try that again

Great episode, loved the commercial and the peak at the expired gallery as well.

astrobeck · « **Reply #17 on:** May 12, 2011, 04:44:19 AM »

Great podcast, and love the infomercial!

I've tried the Efke positive paper in pinhole as well. I rate it as a 2 iso and it works okay. Not one of my favorites though as it always looks dull.

I always enjoy the music selected for the p-casts too!
Great job guys!

vicky slater · « **Reply #18 on:** May 12, 2011, 08:15:44 AM »

I did enjoy it thank you :)

Francois :))
And really felt for Leon, so damned frustrating!

Jeff Warden · « **Reply #19 on:** May 12, 2011, 03:24:45 PM »

Wow - iso 3 on that positive paper? That's a challenge

Thanks for the podcast, it was great!

Jeff

Thom Stone · « **Reply #20 on:** May 12, 2011, 08:54:44 PM »

great vid as usual guys, shame about the positive paper :-( if it was any good I would have definitely got some for my pinholes. still may try it.

digging damions black flag t-shirt :-) I have one very similar that I screen printed myself!

music is awesome as always aswel! can't wait to discuss music aswel as photogeekery at photographica (providing I actually do buy some train tickets)

johann · « **Reply #21 on:** May 12, 2011, 09:01:05 PM »

Great video podcast ! Enjoyed the hell out of it.
Laughed out loud at Damion's stunt double bit.

What you are saying it that Harman positive paper can give great results but it's as capricious in it's manipulation as impossible film in a sense ?

Ed Wenn · « **Reply #22 on:** May 12, 2011, 11:16:56 PM »

Johann; funny you should mention the somewhat similar territory that Diect Positive Paper and the Impossible Project film inhabit...and that they should crop up as subjects of 2 consecutive podcasts. It was unintentional, believe me, but the similarity wasn't lost on me as I edited the most recent episode. Next time we'll have to find something which works perfectly

Thanks, everyone for the positive comments. We do it because we enjoy it, but there's no denying that I'm immensely pleased that they go down so well with so many of you.

The music for this episode was chosen by Damion, myself, Francois and Sean. Last episode it was me and Phil Bebbington. Glad you're enjoying that side of it too.

Thom: I used to screen print t-shirts to pay the rent back when I was playing in a band full time. I miss it actually and was just discussing getting back into it yesterday with a friend of my wife.

jojonas~ · « **Reply #23 on:** May 13, 2011, 08:06:18 AM »

I just took a look at Ilfords tech info for the paper, interesting tips and guides. they even (gasp) mention LOMO cameras
http://www.photax.se/ftpp/harman/Harman20104211516571165.pdf

tkmedia · « **Reply #24 on:** May 13, 2011, 08:42:23 AM »

Do a couple styles of filmwaster shirts Ed. one colour, one side. maybe same basic design; one positive, one negative. black on white shirt and white on black shirt?

edit: hopefully the positive shirt wont have the same effect as the positive paper on the podcast!

Phil Bebbington · « **Reply #25 on:** May 13, 2011, 07:47:55 PM »

Great work as always, chaps! Loved it.

johann · « **Reply #26 on:** May 13, 2011, 09:39:15 PM »

Quote from: tkmedia on May 13, 2011, 08:42:23 AM

Do a couple styles of filmwaster shirts Ed. one colour, one side. maybe same basic design; one positive, one negative. black on white shirt and white on black shirt?

edit: hopefully the positive shirt wont have the same effect as the positive paper on the podcast!

Great idea ! I really need a dark cloth to help me focus my large format camera.

mark, fourstarfilm.com · « **Reply #27 on:** May 18, 2011, 01:13:23 PM »

yes, i recognise Leon's moment there, the complete anticipation of the unknown as you're about to unscrew the lid of the tank!

Late Developer · « **Reply #28 on:** May 18, 2011, 09:03:26 PM »

Great fun all round. Really enjoyed it. Incidentally, I know you listed the music clips but what was the one playing during Sean's exhibition? That sounded rather interesting........

Ed Wenn · « **Reply #29 on:** May 20, 2011, 09:09:19 PM »

The song is "Still Alive" by Three Mile Pilot. It was one of Sean's selections and I think it worked really well.

moominsean · « **Reply #30 on:** May 20, 2011, 09:34:29 PM »

Three Mile Pilot Live@The Casbah Part 5

three mile pilot is a decent band from san diego that features zach from pinback (on bass). if you haven't heard of pinback, you should!

Pinback - "AFK" - Music Video - Director Matt Hoyt

and good stuff all around on the podcast!

rkbry · « **Reply #31 on:** May 20, 2011, 10:48:24 PM »

Great video podcast! Thanks for putting this all together, I really enjoyed watching it.

And I liked Sean's Three Mile Pilot song choice. Love Pinback and other Rob Crow bands, but I had never heard Three Mile Pilot before this.

Bummer about the positive paper, too.

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