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Ed Wenn

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Xpro at Home
« on: February 27, 2011, 11:56:48 AM »
Anyone ever tried cross-processing E6 film in a C-41 home kit? I assume it's entirely possible, but wondered if there were any gotchas? I have a lot of chrome 120 lying around in the fridge, but very little C-41 120, so if I'm going to shoot colour of any sort with my MF cameras without spending any money, I'll end up with chrome before too long and wondered about the viability of processing it at home.

For the record, I've never got on with properly processed E6 and have always much preferred the results when cross-processed (especially my fave film, Agfa RSX II), the the 'look' won't be a problem for me.

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Re: Xpro at Home
« Reply #1 on: February 28, 2011, 06:46:25 AM »
I'm interested aswell. I've seen it done with the same kit, for example from: http://www.flickr.com/photos/bildministeriet/

I've sent a question to her before that I'll bump. I'll be back with my findings later :)
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Re: Xpro at Home
« Reply #2 on: February 28, 2011, 07:42:47 AM »
Anyone ever tried cross-processing E6 film in a C-41 home kit? I assume it's entirely possible, but wondered if there were any gotchas? I have a lot of chrome 120 lying around in the fridge, but very little C-41 120, so if I'm going to shoot colour of any sort with my MF cameras without spending any money, I'll end up with chrome before too long and wondered about the viability of processing it at home.

For the record, I've never got on with properly processed E6 and have always much preferred the results when cross-processed (especially my fave film, Agfa RSX II), the the 'look' won't be a problem for me.

Yes, tested few months back a E6 film x-processed with the Tetenal C41 and worked fine (fine in xpro terms of course). I just treated it as a c41 film and that's it. I was pretty fine with the results and I'll do it again and maybe playing a bit with pushing and other funny things (still several expired E6 rolls at home). Didn't notice any issues either with film or the chemicals. I processed normal c41 ro;;s after and everything was consistent. Can't find any example at the mo but I'll try and post later when I find them.

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Re: Xpro at Home
« Reply #3 on: February 28, 2011, 08:55:29 AM »
Salvo: Perfect. Many thanks for the feedback. Glad it worked and that it didn't mess up the chems for subsequent C-41 use.

Jonas: No need for that bump now, but thanks for the thought.  :)

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Re: Xpro at Home
« Reply #4 on: February 28, 2011, 01:25:10 PM »
I would second everything that Salvo said.  I've been cross processing in Tetenal for a while and there are no ill effects to either slide film or negative film.  It really is straight forward to do at home.  Why labs claim it messes up their chemicals is anyones guess, it doesn't (that's not just based on my DIY experience but information from a friendly lab).  And many who do cross process will charge a fortune for it when it all costs the same. 


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Re: Xpro at Home
« Reply #5 on: February 28, 2011, 01:54:10 PM »
great :) I'll be sure to try it out
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Re: Xpro at Home
« Reply #6 on: February 28, 2011, 05:37:23 PM »
I asked this same question a month or so back with no response.
Glad to see an answer this go round!

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Re: Xpro at Home
« Reply #7 on: February 28, 2011, 09:17:26 PM »
didnt see that thread becky . . .

i tried it too and as salvo said I too treated it like c-41!
i was having trouble with the temperature so the results were not to
my satisfaction  ???

although i didnt comment on your colour home processing ed you had great results
so i'd be interested to see how you get on with the x-pro.



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Re: Xpro at Home
« Reply #8 on: February 28, 2011, 09:25:56 PM »
:::WARNING:::

I just remembered what Francois mentioned regarding my attempt
at cross processing chromes . . .

"I was looking at the film borders (E200) and realized you were talking about Ektachrome... a totally different beast.
Ektachrome is based on E-6 chemistry which won't corrupt your C-41 when cross processing.

Kodachrome on the other hand works completely differently. While C-41 and E-6 process film both have the color pigments inside the emulsion, this is not the case with Kodachrome.

Think of Kodachrome of more of a B&W film that uses special developers to process each layer separately and after each developer, the image gets a toner bath before going on. This makes it a very lengthy process which differs from the other emulsions."


here is the thread >

http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=3129.msg30393#msg30393

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Re: Xpro at Home
« Reply #9 on: February 28, 2011, 10:33:59 PM »
I asked this same question a month or so back with no response.
Glad to see an answer this go round!

 :) :) :) :) :)

Well, at least I'm partially in the clear re not answering you, Becky. As my subsequent posts shows, I wouldn't have been able to provide any constructive input as I have yet to try it myself. That said, I do feel bad that your original query went unanswered. Sorry about that.

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Re: Xpro at Home
« Reply #10 on: February 28, 2011, 11:44:00 PM »
No worries all!
I just figured no one had tried it, so glad to hear it's going tested now.   :)
Such a wealth of info here from the troops!

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Re: Xpro at Home
« Reply #11 on: March 01, 2011, 09:41:23 AM »
Salvo: Perfect. Many thanks for the feedback. Glad it worked and that it didn't mess up the chems for subsequent C-41 use.

Jonas: No need for that bump now, but thanks for the thought.  :)

Ed, have fun with it, super easy as you know and plent of scope to play with it as soon as the sunny days arrive here ( ::) ); below some examples i found, shot on kodak e100G, normal bog standard family snaps, please ignore quality, just slightly adjusted



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Re: Xpro at Home
« Reply #12 on: March 01, 2011, 09:26:34 PM »
Very nice, Salvo. Thanks so much for posting. I really like the last snap and the one of your two ladies on the chair.

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