Topic: Can I get these stains off?

[original_ann]

As I was unclipping my dried roll, it fell and landed in some water below with the hanging device clamboring down on top of it making some horrid marks.  I carefully tried to rinse them under water and this is the result.  Are these permanent or can I remove?

[original_ann]

(... contrast and exposure settings enhanced to bring out the marks)

[Late Developer]

Suggest soaking using wetting agent and then thorough rinse and dry. It might not work but I doubt it would do any damage. Worth a try.

[moominsean]

that's what she said.

okay that's out of my system. are the marks visible on the surface when you angle the film against light? i'd suggest possible soaking in water for maybe 5-10 minutes to loosen any particulates, then re-rinsing for 15 minutes or so, then photo-flo it. as long as whatever it is hasn't eaten into the film, no reason why it shouldn't wash off.

[original_ann]

Sean, too funny.  But yes they are visible (nooooo, that's NOT what she said).   

I'll give your suggestion a go - thanks to both of you!

[Photo_Utopia]

They are called run marks, I've had lots of success re-loading in a spiral and washing to soften the emulsion and then photo flow (not too much as it can cause this)
Mark

[original_ann]

Film drying and fingers crossed...

[calbisu]

May be not as orthodox but applying ¨clone¨ with Photoshop should work as the majority of the marks can be easily cloned on the sky.

[original_ann]

Calbisu, if the soak/rinse/photoflo didn't work, using a Healing brush in Photoshop was going to be my last resort. Thank you for suggesting! 

oh and hooray!  The rinse method worked.  Will rescan tomorrow.

[WalterE]

You could try soaking in a solution of sodium carbonate/water, about a tablespoon or two in 16 oz of water...make sure they are fully wetted before. The solution will soften the negatives, so be careful! Then wash and photo flow and dry!

[Francois]

This is actually a trick that can be used to reticulate a negative post processing. The emulsion's gelatin layer will become very soft in the process so extra care must be used. If soaked too long or in too strong a solution, it can even make the emulsion lift off the base!

Yes, it is something that would work... but extra care should be used also.