Topic: Rollei IR

[yola10go]

Has anyone ever tried the rollei version of IR film?  Is it the same as maco 820 just repackedged?  Since Kodak has stopped producing their Aerographic film, and Konica no longer producing, there aren't many sources of medium format infrared film. I was wondering how well it worked.

thanks,
erika

[This-is-damion]

hi

as far as im aware it is just repackaged maco film.  I think the bloke from retro photo was telling me, much in the same way as adox repackage ilford film (AND you get a re usebale 120 film canister!!!!)   and also is there not a lot of repackaged agfa apx doing the rounds???  although cant remember what its been repackaged as??

[katie]

Far as I know, Ilford have stopped selling film on to be repackaged by anyone, so they can stop competing with themselves.

ADOX is Efke, rebranded rather than repackaged.

The new Rollei films are made by Maco, but I'm pretty sure they are different emulsions, at least the R3. It's possible that the IR and regular films are not so new.

[LT]

Far as I know, Ilford have stopped selling film on to be repackaged by anyone, so they can stop competing with themselves.

ADOX is Efke, rebranded rather than repackaged.

The new Rollei films are made by Maco, but I'm pretty sure they are different emulsions, at least the R3. It's possible that the IR and regular films are not so new.

the adox chm 125 and 400 are repackaged ilford Fp4+ and Hp5+ - this may be old stock bought up when iflord went into difficulties ..... I'm going to the factory next week so I'll ask if they are still supplying other manufacturers, what you say kate makes sense.

the rollei 25, r3 and IR films are repackaged/ rebranded maco, and the retro 100 and 400 are repackaged last remaining stock agfa apx 100/ 400 (once used up there will be no more).

[This-is-damion]

hey leon, see if ilford will keep sellling to adox, they sell it cheaper AND throw in a nice reuseable film container!

I appreciate it might not make good business sense, but -well  you know......i like it cheaper

 

[katie]

[I'm going to the factory next week so I'll ask if they are still supplying other manufacturers

Nice! I'd be interested to know what they say about that. What are you up to over at Ilford?

[Ed Wenn]

hey leon, see if ilford will keep sellling to adox, they sell it cheaper AND throw in a nice reuseable film container!

I appreciate it might not make good business sense, but -well  you know......i like it cheaper

 

I do too,  but it rather takes away the mystique that Efke had. You know that whole "hand rolled by blind people in darkened rooms" thing.

[LT]

What are you up to over at Ilford?

 group of us from the other forum ...

 
Have been invited there for a tour etc.  It's nect friday (2nd) and there are a couple of free speces if anyone is interested, they'd have to join up to the other forum...


to be eligible, but that wouldnt take a lot.  send me a PM if you;re interested

[dustymiller]

Has anyone ever tried the rollei version of IR film?  Is it the same as maco 820 just repackedged?  Since Kodak has stopped producing their Aerographic film, and Konica no longer producing, there aren't many sources of medium format infrared film. I was wondering how well it worked.

thanks,
erika

Hello one and all, this is my first post here.

This topic caught my eye as I have been using Maco IR in 120 format for some time.
The Rollei version is a completely different emulsion, less sensitive to IR, and several stops faster than the earlier Maco. My early results show greater contrast, but I have still to nail down my personal film speed.

[dustymiller]

As we had a rare bright and sunny day to day I exposed a second roll of Rollei IR through the recommended 715 filter, and having developed it in Prescysol, it looks as though I will rate it between 12 and 6 ISO as opposed to the 25 ISO recommended by Rollei with that filter. I think the unfiltered rating of 400 ISO is optimistic as well, 200 ISO looks nearer the mark with this developer.

[Muihlinn]

AFAIK first hand, no "I heard/I read/someone told me that..." all Rollei films I tried are slightly different from those things that many folks said that just plain repackaging. The R3 has a different layer order than Maco cube, and yes, I think that they are pretty optimistic  with their speed ratings, same with Pan25 that I also think it's more close to 6 than 25, probably the same counts for that IR film.

About the apx/retro issue, there are so much noise about being the same, even a letter from Maco. Well, the rolls I've used (400 - 135) doesn't behave as apx used to, they  looks close, yes, but some details like grain structures looks different to me. It will be nice to have a bit more of information from the maker, at least to shorten the boring test stuff.

[LT]

As we had a rare bright and sunny day to day I exposed a second roll of Rollei IR through the recommended 715 filter, and having developed it in Prescysol, it looks as though I will rate it between 12 and 6 ISO as opposed to the 25 ISO recommended by Rollei with that filter. I think the unfiltered rating of 400 ISO is optimistic as well, 200 ISO looks nearer the mark with this developer.

Hello Dave! good to see you over here, and to have the expertise of your wisdom too.

[Dave_M]

dustymiller - the photographs on your website are absolutely stunning 

I saw your darkroom setup in B+W magazine a few issues ago. Can't say I was totally jealous or anything 

[yola10go]

As we had a rare bright and sunny day to day I exposed a second roll of Rollei IR through the recommended 715 filter, and having developed it in Prescysol, it looks as though I will rate it between 12 and 6 ISO as opposed to the 25 ISO recommended by Rollei with that filter. I think the unfiltered rating of 400 ISO is optimistic as well, 200 ISO looks nearer the mark with this developer.

Thanks Dave for all of that info!  With an iso of 6-12 i wonder how many clicks on my holga would that be on a sunny day??  I'm thinking that maybe I should run it through my clack first instead since it a bulb setting......

Just out of curiosity have you used a 25A filter with this film at all, and if so what did you think of the results??

erika

[dave miller]

I've recently returned from a two week trip to Ireland, so offer that as an excuse for the delay in replying to the earlier posts. You may notice that I have had to re-register, that is because I forgot my password, and having fouled-up my email address, could not retrieve it;  so it's a fresh start. Anyway, thanks for the welcome.

Getting back to the topic, I have got as far as developing ten of the films I exposed to the very bright Irish sunshine - a whole stop faster there than here in England, which says something about air quality. I rated the new Rollie IR film at 12 ISO using a 715 filter, and the negatives look ok, but the proof will be in the printing. Most of the shots were also duplicated on Ilford Delta 400, so I'm interested in comparing printing qualities of the two film types.

I hope to be printing this weekend, so should be able to report back on results then.

[FrankB]

There goes the neighbourhood... 

Good to have you on board, Dave, you grumpy old git!   

[colinturner]

The far superior Kodak Aerographic 70mm IR (2424) may still be available from David Romano http://davidromano.com.
I have 14 rolls in my freezer dated 08/06 2 of which are spare if anyone is interested in purchasing some. Not cheap at about £ 280 a roll (150').