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Title: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: hookstrapped on January 28, 2016, 01:34:25 PM
I use the term "bonding" in regard to a camera where there is a lot of affection for it based on the pleasure of using it and the results produced. I've tried a number of cameras that I thought going in I would love but ended up simply not bonding with, and then others that I was a bit surprised how close we became  :-*

Thought of starting a thread for people to list their respective Bonded with / Not bonded with cameras.  For me...

Bonded with
Minolta TC-1
Rollei 35S
Mamiya 6
Chamonix 45-N2
Leica M2
Diana
Gakkenflex

Not bonded with
Ricoh GR1
Canonet
Olympus XA
Holga
Robot

Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: charles binns on January 28, 2016, 01:51:16 PM
Bonded
Holga
Mamiya 6
Mamiya Universal Press (though it took me several years to bond with it)
Crown Graphic
Nikon FE
Recesky TLR
Kiev 60

Not Bonded
Hasselblad 503CX
Leica iiia
Harman Titan pinhole
Holga pinhole
Vivitar UWS
Nikon F3
Nikon FM2

I have a load of toy cameras (Dianas and the like) that make an occasional outing but don't move me much either way.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: gsgary on January 28, 2016, 02:34:14 PM
Bonded
Leica M4-2
Leica M4p 70 year anniversary
Mamiya C330
Would love to bond with a Mamiya 7 maybe soon

Not bonded with
Canon Eos5  sold
Nikormat FTN

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Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: zapsnaps on January 28, 2016, 02:45:54 PM
Not bonded
Most things d*g*t*l  :o
Leica M6
Omega Rapid
Zorki 10

Bonded
Leica R8
500c/m
All my Polaroids
Petri Racer

TBA
Old, nameless plate camera (yet to be used, but it's a real looker)
Ondu 5x4 pinhole (yet to arrive)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: 02Pilot on January 28, 2016, 02:57:57 PM
Bonded
Leica IIIc & IIIg
Canon L1 & P
Rollei 35
Rolleiflex Old Standard
Voigtländer Perkeo II

Not Bonded
Olympus XA4 Macro
Olympus PEN D3
Olympus 35SP
Canon Canonet QL19
Holga 135 Pan
Yashica GSN

Of the "Not Bonded" list, the latter three have been sold and the first three are currently for sale.

What's interesting to me as I think about this is that it's much easier to associate the reasons for not bonding with a camera than it is to identify why I've bonded with the ones I have. Of those that haven't worked for me, it's mostly about the lack of control (XA4 and GSN, both of which mandate partially or fully automatic exposure), the ergonomics (35SP and QL19 - on RFs, I've figured out that I like the speeds on the top plate, not the shutter barrel), or something about the format (PEN D3 and 135 Pan - I've moved away from half-frame, and I never came to terms with the 35mm pano).

But for the cameras I have bonded with, it's more than just those easily nailed down factors. Getting good results is obviously important, but there's something intangible that makes them work particularly well for me. I don't know what it is, and I'm not entirely certain that I care.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: hookstrapped on January 28, 2016, 03:00:14 PM

But for the cameras I have bonded with, it's more than just those easily nailed down factors. Getting good results is obviously important, but there's something intangible that makes them work particularly well for me. I don't know what it is, and I'm not entirely certain that I care.

Love is a mystery...
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Ezzie on January 28, 2016, 03:08:53 PM
Bonded with:
Canon EF
Leica M4-2
Rolleiflex 2.8
Fuji GA645Wi
Pentacon P6
ONDU 6x6
Polaroid LC 250

Not bonded with:
Mamiya M645 1000s
Kiev 6C
Yashica A
Foth Derby
Exa I v.6

On and off affair with:
Kowa Super 66 (mostly due to technical issues)

Jury is out:
Pentax SP1000
Pentax SV
Voigtländer CL
Royal 35M
Kiev 1c
Kodak Box Brownie No.2 model D
Ikonta 523/16
Welta Weltix
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: John Robison on January 28, 2016, 03:12:33 PM
Bonded with an Olympus Pen VF camera when I used super glue to stick back some loose covering.

OK sorry, could not resist the urge for a bad pun. But seriously, I really do like my Pen viewfinder cameras, but only the full manual models, not the EE series. In fact I seem to favor several Olympus cameras;
OM-1
Pen F
35RC
Pen
Pen S f3.5
Pen D

Not bonded;
Leica M4-2 (Always thought I wanted a Leica M.....until I got one. For a camera that size and weight I'd rather stick to a SLR, thus I came right back to my OM-1)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: 02Pilot on January 28, 2016, 03:36:00 PM
In fact I seem to favor several Olympus cameras

I can't help but notice that your roster doesn't include an XA4 Macro, a 35 SP, or a PEN D3, which just happen to be the cameras I'm selling...I think I may be able to help you fill those glaringly obvious gaps in your collection...  ;)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: jharr on January 28, 2016, 03:54:59 PM
Bonded:
These that I've bonded with seemed to 'click' with me immediately. I just liked the process of using them right away. Some I liked using before I ever saw an image out of them. The BHF has such a satisfying "snap-click" that I sometimes push the button just to hear it.
Nikkormat FTn (the camera I learned with)
Voigtlander Bessa 6x9 (my first MF love)
Yashica Mat 124G
Kodak Instamatic 500  :o
Graflex Speed Graphic
Kodak Brownie 2a
Brownie Hawkeye Flash
Agfa Isolette III

Not Bonded:
These I have simply not warmed up to the process or the controls. The Holga was my first MF camera, but I quickly moved on to the Voigtlander (above) and have probably only put one roll through it since.
Titan pinhole
Nikon N2020
Chinon CP5
Holga
Polaroid 600 Whale

Still Courting:
Polaroid Land 250
Kodak Instamatic 304
Fed-3 (I've used this a lot, but I'm not sure whether I like it or not)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Pete_R on January 28, 2016, 04:51:29 PM
Bonded:
Mamiya 645 system
Rolleiflex 4x4 baby
Rolleiflex 2.8c (but it's getting rocky)
Contax 139
Contax RXII
A couple of unmentionables  :-[

Didn't bond with:
Rangefinders (though the CLE was cute)
Anything bigger than 6x6 (tried 6x7, 6x9, 6x12, 4x5)
Lo-fi
Half frame
Pinholes
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Adam Doe on January 28, 2016, 06:57:17 PM
Bonded
Yashica D
Crown Graphic
Zero Image 4x5 Pinhole
Olympus 35
Petri Racer (yes, really)
Konica Autoreflex T models (T, T3)
All of my Polaroid Land Cameras but especially the 450, 340s, 440s and most of all the 100s.
Sprocket Rocket (The only Lomography camera I've used that I've liked)

Not Bonded
Kiev 88 (nyet)
Lomo Instant
Koni-Omega Rapid M(as much as I love the instant attention getting machine gun cocking ratcheting sound when you advance a frame)
Rollei 35 (I will probably try again to bond, but at the moment...)

Currently Trying To Bond With
 Bronica SQ
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Peter84 on January 28, 2016, 07:20:17 PM
Bonded
Canon AE-1
Canon EOS 33
Holga 120WPC
Holga 120N
Olympus XA
Olympus XA2

Not bonded
Several Diana's
Diana Mini
SX-70
Zenit B
Holga with pola back

And then there is the Long distance relationship I have with:
Olympus trip 35
Pentax 67
Rollei 35S

Now the last category camera's I tend to take with me but do not use for some reason, maybe I should commit more to them and use them more exclusive if I go somewhere
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Francois on January 28, 2016, 09:08:05 PM
Bonded
Nikon F90x
Yashica-mat
Fuji Instax 100
Sprocket Rocket (especially since I made a panoramic film holder for my enlarger)
Fed 5B with Industar-61

Not bonded
Canon Rebel
anything Minolta AF
Point & shoots

hated more than having my wisdom teeth pulled out
a ZLR... I think it was made by Minolta or Olympus. But that doesn't matter, it's an absolute pain to use and goes through CRP2 batteries like cookie monster goes through treats. Just abominable. I'd have to look through my boxes to find it.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: ManuelL on January 28, 2016, 09:13:57 PM
Bonded
Harman Titan 4x5 Pinhole
Zero Image 4x5 Pinhole
Chamonix 45F1
Graflex Speed Graphic
Mamiya RZ67
Zeiss Ikon ZM

Not Bonded
Hasselblad 500c
Linhof Technika V
Leica CLE
Zero Image 6x9 Multiformat Pinhole
4x5 Polaroid Holders - on any Camera
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: David A-W on January 28, 2016, 11:38:09 PM
A real mix from previous posters, here's mine:

Bonded
Leica M3
Hasselblad 500c/m
Nikon FE
Rolleiflex 3.5f
Harman Titan pinhole

Not bonded
Zeiss Ikon ZM
Hasselblad Xpan
Leica MP
Nikon F
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Late Developer on January 29, 2016, 08:56:12 AM
By way of some context, for the past few years, I've been on a sort of journey of discovery.  That sounds a bit grand but it really isn't.  When I was a young man, I could never afford the kit I wanted and had to make do with what I could afford.  Now that the price of film gear has dropped and my salary's gone up a bit, I've been buying and trading the things that, previously, I could only dream about owning.  I'm also getting older and much less inclined to lug huge bags full of heavy kit around.

From mid 2015, I've gradually reduced the volume of kit I have and will continue to do so this year. 

Bonded with:

- Hasselblad 500c/m and 503cx
- Leica M6 and M7
- Canon F1-NAE
- Nikon F100
- Rolleiflex T

Not Bonded:

- Mamiya 7
- Hasselblad X-Pan
- Big/heavy Nikon AF Pro bodies

I also have a dinky little Tutone with which I'm sure I will bond and that will be my incursion into 5x4.  Finally, I recently acquired a Holga.  I've had one in the past and hated everything about it.  However, I think my expectations were wrong / too high and I'm actually starting to quite like it.....
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: zapsnaps on January 29, 2016, 09:41:08 AM
Late: I'm on a similar 'journey' - but from a different direction.

Starting out late, my first camera was a new Leica M6, after borrowing the girlfriend's starter EOS for a few holidays. Couldn't get on with the M6, so I swapped it for the then just launched Leica R8 and 2 zooms. Perfect. But my latest purchase was a £10 Mamiya 135 and all recent buys have been sub-£50 FleaBay bargains. Like many, I thought the M6 & R8 would make me a better snapper and automatically produce better snaps. They of course, didn't. But what they did do was teach me to 'see' and I'm enjoying seeing things through everyday carry cameras which cost the same as a bottle of wine or two.

The big guns are now only used for my figurative stuff. But even that choice has an interesting spin. Produce a £10 machine in front of a model and they scream and think I'm some sort of geriatric voyeur. Get the Blad or the R8 out and they positively coo when you tell them they take film. They automatically think that I must be better than a DSLR snapper, because there is no digital safety net. So if they think I'm automatically better because I use film, why can't they extend that belief to the fact that many FW's can take good pictures with cheap cameras. Any idiot can press the button on a couple of grand's worth of DSLR, but being able to take an impressive picture on a £10 camera surely means that the user has developed their skills.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Late Developer on January 29, 2016, 11:30:41 AM
It's an interesting point you make about whether "better" cameras make you a "better" photographer. 

I don't believe they do - but they can provide more technical and creative flexibility (if circumstances require).  That said, I must admit that, having spent a number of years using cameras that, for whatever reason, I didn't particularly like, I feel a lot happier using the cameras I've "bonded" with. 

It's not all about expense, either.  The Hassy 500c/m didn't cost a great deal - even with the lens and a decent A12 back - but I just love the way it handles, the reliability and the noise it makes.  Nigel mentioned that he had a "moment" when he first picked up his Hasselblad.  I've known other photographers who've fallen in love, instantly, with other cameras.  Charles Binns is a strong advocate of Holgas and, despite the fact that I owned one years ago (hated it with a passion abd gave it away) he's persuaded me to give one another go.

Incidentally, I can see your point about the choice of camera when photographing models. The last thing you want is a model who switches off when confronted with what they regard as inferior kit.  Which suggests that many (most?) non-photographers (and maybe quite a few photographers) really do believe that better kit makes for a better photographer.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Sandeha Lynch on January 29, 2016, 12:29:59 PM
Bonded:
Mamiya C3
Rolleiflex TLR (various)
Hasselblad 500 C/M
Leica M2 (gone now)
Pentax (various slrs)
Isolette (various)
Home made view cameras
Most things with a leaf shutter

Not Bonded:
Other brand TLRs
Not much else

Models usually smile when I get out my kit.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: gsgary on January 29, 2016, 12:33:03 PM
A real mix from previous posters, here's mine:

Bonded
Leica M3
Hasselblad 500c/m
Nikon FE
Rolleiflex 3.5f
Harman Titan pinhole

Not bonded
Zeiss Ikon ZM
Hasselblad Xpan
Leica MP
Nikon F
How come you bonded with the M3 and not the MP  ?

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Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: limr on January 29, 2016, 02:04:52 PM
Bonded
Pentax K1000
Polaroid Land Camera 100
Mamiya 645
Mamiya C330
Lubitel 166B
Yashica D
Rollei 35S
Praktica FX 2

Almost bonded
Zorki 6 (Great camera - on this list only because I seem to respond more quickly to SLRs than rangefinders.)
ONDU pinhole
Holga
(Those last two feel like they can be great but there's just one piece of the puzzle missing and I haven't found it yet.)

Not Bonded
Olympus 35RS
Minolta Maxxum 7000
Fujifilm Instax 210 (it's fun but I find myself not using it that often.)
A few random point and shoots or oddballs that have ended up on my shelf

Not sure, probably should use it more often to find out
Olympus OM-2
Minolta SR-1
(Both great cameras, but when I reach for an SLR, I default to Pentax and probably don't give these two enough of a chance.)

It could be argued that the K1000 tops my list simply because it was my first love and I've had it the longest, but it's also true that in the 20+ years I've had her, I've never NOT been excited about shooting with her. I've taken her everywhere with me and she's never ever disappointed. We clicked immediately. I enjoy shooting the Spotmatic and my second K1000 just as much, but am not as emotionally attached only because they haven't been with me for nearly as long.

The Mamiya 645 is an interesting case. I got that camera in 2005 from some students who worked at Mamiya. When I got it, I had no idea what it was or what it could do. I shot some rolls and never really "got" the format. Years later when I got my Lubitel, I finally wrapped my head around medium-format shooting and to this day, I still respond more to waist-level finders for medium format (thus placing all my TLRs on the "Bonded" list.) I revisited the 645 and started bonding a bit more, even though I prefer 6x6 to the 6x4.5 format. But then I got the WLF at Christmas, and  finally it all fell into place for me and the 645. I'm a lot more exited about it now than I ever was before and I think it will show in the pictures.

The Polaroid - if the film were cheaper, I'd be using it all the time. Oh, how I love!! The Pola and the K1000 are coming with me to the grave :)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Indofunk on January 29, 2016, 08:29:49 PM
How about a slightly different spin on this: cameras I totally expected to love, but didn't; and cameras I expected to be blase about, but they came through like gangbusters.

Polaroids are in both categories: I bought an SX70 expecting it to remind me of the good old days when I was in middle school and my dad worked for Polaroid, but the design and the fact that the (IP) film costs a million bucks per shot really turned me off. Even when my Dad gave me his old SLR680, I was already done with the ridiculous IP film prices. Then Adam gave me an old Automatic 100, and I absolutely LOVE that thing. The fact that the Fuji film is cheaper, better, and more amenable to being f**ked around with also helps :)

I suppose the Ciroflex TLR would have to be in the "expected to love but didn't", only because I haven't used it in a while. I did love it when I was using it regularly, but now that I haven't shot it in a while, I look over at it and say "sorry, not today. I know, AGAIN." I just need to start shooting it more.

And in the "love to hate" category: my SRT101 has a very specific use that I can't use any other camera for: low light gig photography. The 50mm 1.8 lens is perfect for this, and the fact that it meters up to 1600 is extremely convenient (no need for an external meter). So I use it a lot, but always with a slight bit of annoyance. Not that any other camera would really be any better...
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: hookstrapped on January 29, 2016, 08:41:26 PM
How about a slightly different spin on this: cameras I totally expected to love, but didn't; and cameras I expected to be blase about, but they came through like gangbusters.


 ::) :-X
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Francois on January 29, 2016, 09:11:50 PM
There's always those.
The Sprocket Rocket falls exactly in that category. At first, I found it incredibly hard to frame and annoying to carry. But my new hand made half case really removed the transportation barrier and I now find it a joy to use.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: calbisu on January 29, 2016, 09:14:51 PM
For few years now I have been ¨looking¨ for the perfect camera, just to realize that it does not exist. I have come to acknowledge that I have to adapt to the camera and accept its limitations. I am recently shooting with 35mm camera, and even do no not like much the format I am hooked to the camera size and portability.

Bonded with:
Polaroid 195
Pentax 67
Rolleiflex 2.8e
Canon A1
Contax G1

Not bonded:
Canon F1n
Rolleiflex 2.8gx
Polaroid 110
Minox 35gt
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Kai-san on January 29, 2016, 09:41:40 PM
I cannot say that I'm joined at the hip with any camera in the sense that I'm lost without them. It's more like "fun to use" and "not so fun to use". And some cameras just falls naturally into your hand and you know instinctively how to handle them.

Fun to use:
Polaroid SX-70
My modified Polaroid 101
Fuji GA645W
Yashica Mat 124
Pentacon Six TL
Contax G2
Zeiss Ikon ZM
Contax RX
Nikon F3
Nikkormat Ftn (my first camera)

Not so fun:
Polaroid Spectra
Konica Autoreflex T3
FED 5B
Nikonos IV-A
Contax 167MT

And then there are all the ones in between which see less use, but that I like to keep anyway. Because in the end I just love cameras! :P
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Nigel on January 29, 2016, 10:18:34 PM
Cameras have such an emotional hold on me. If I don't bond then I just can't bring myself to use the thing.

BONDED
Holga 120
Leica M6
Nikon F3
Lubitel 166 universal
Olympus XA2

I WISH I COULD BOND WITH
Hasselblad CXi

NOT BONDED
Yashica TLRs
Holga 135
Any point and shoot
Travelwide

Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: macfred on January 29, 2016, 11:10:58 PM
...  It's more like "fun to use" and "not so fun to use". And some cameras just falls naturally into your hand and you know instinctively how to handle them.

+1 ! I agree with Kai-san - here's my listing :

Fun to use :

- Zeiss Ikon Nettar w/ Novar Anastigmat 6.3 (the first love is the deepest ...)
- FUJI GA645 (my first FUJI 120 - I don't like it - I love it !)
- FUJI GA645Wi (+ GA645 = great tools for travelling and hiking !)
- FUJI GW670iii (relatively new - I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship ... )
- Konica Hexar AF (bought my first one in 1994 while travelling South of France - lost it in 2003 - bought another one ...)
- Konica III / Hexanon 48mm f/2 (my 'everyday carry')

I wish I could bond with the Voigtländer Bessa T / Heliar 101 set, I'm going to buy pretty soon ...

Not so much fun :

- Bronica ETRSi (currently for sale)
- Nikon F4 ( - '' -)
- Olympus XA (mixed emotions ...)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Andrej K on January 30, 2016, 07:39:11 AM
Bonded:
Sinar Norma
tachihara triple ext. 8x10
Rolleicord

Promising looking bond
Hasselblad 500
Toyo half plate
Ikoflex

Still-not-sure
Fuji GSW

Not bonded
Mamiya 645
Zeiss ikon folder
35mm format...


Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: hookstrapped on February 01, 2016, 03:34:55 PM
Bonded:
Sinar Norma
tachihara triple ext. 8x10
Rolleicord

Promising looking bond
Hasselblad 500
Toyo half plate
Ikoflex

Still-not-sure
Fuji GSW

Not bonded
Mamiya 645
Zeiss ikon folder
35mm format...

Man, writing off a whole format...  :'(
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Francois on February 01, 2016, 04:15:45 PM
That's just because he hasn't tried either a Robo, an Xpan or a half frame ;)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Andrej K on February 01, 2016, 05:17:42 PM
That's just because he hasn't tried either a Robo, an Xpan or a half frame ;)

What's a "Robo"?
Anyway.. If someone is willing to give me an xpan to cure me from my unbonded status with 35mm format, I am all for it!
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: gothamtomato on February 01, 2016, 07:17:07 PM
I've always felt most bonded with my Nikon FM. Still using the same one I bought in 1978. I do love my Hasselblads, and love using them, but cannot say I'm fully bonded to them in the same way. The FM is just an extension of me. From time to time I get others cameras, but I keep going back to my FM. Maybe it's a first love thing.

As for not bonded, it's the Holga. I've tried to love it, but we've just never hit it off.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Francois on February 01, 2016, 09:02:21 PM
That's just because he hasn't tried either a Robo, an Xpan or a half frame ;)

What's a "Robo"?
Anyway.. If someone is willing to give me an xpan to cure me from my unbonded status with 35mm format, I am all for it!
Robot... sorry, looks like my keyboard was missing a T.
These were spring wound cameras made in Germany that took square pictures on 35mm film. A full 50 images per roll of 36.
I know Zeiss-Ikon also did one (the Tenax), also the Certo, and a bunch of others too.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: 02Pilot on February 01, 2016, 09:43:59 PM
I'm begging you, please stop talking about square format 35mm cameras. I'm just starting to successfully thin my accumulation of cameras (somewhere between a collection and a pile), and the renewed temptation of a Robot or a Tenax might be too much to bear. I can't go off the wagon this soon.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Francois on February 01, 2016, 09:49:04 PM
I can help you, just begin another share the love for all your unloved kit ;)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Rafael Morales on February 01, 2016, 10:38:18 PM
I guess my list would be like this.
Bonded
Nikon N6006 one of the first cameras I bought new and I still use.
Lomo LCA I love those things!
Pentax SP500 one of the best flea market finds (for me of course)
Kodak Pony 135 model C It is my little pony. Great sunny 16 shooter.
Sprocket Rocket  I will keep shooting it even though I will not scan them until I figure out how to get the holes in the pic.
Nikon FM2 with the 50mm f1.4 that came with it.

Not bonded
Ricoh KR5 super II (if i remember correctly)
Holgas with glass or plastic. meh
Kiev 35a nothing to say
Lubitel 166u maybe if i knew what i know now
Ricohflex Model III (i think) maybe if i would have use it more. And, the lens not lock up like the Lubitel.


That would be my list with a Kiev 88 camera listed as "on the fence". Those are the ones I can think of at the moment. :D
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Chalky on February 02, 2016, 12:43:20 PM
This is interesting to see what people do and don't like  :)

Much of mine I think comes down to film type as much as anything...

Bonded
anything and everything polaroid
holga
speed graphic
bronica s2

not bonded
ANY TLR - I CANNOT frame a shot using them for the life of me, literally takes me 30 seconds to frame something still!
dont shoot much 35mm so therefore don't bond with the cameras, it takes me forever to finish a roll!
lomo fisheye 2 - the novelty wore off very quickly


Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: hookstrapped on February 02, 2016, 01:08:23 PM
I'm begging you, please stop talking about square format 35mm cameras. I'm just starting to successfully thin my accumulation of cameras (somewhere between a collection and a pile), and the renewed temptation of a Robot or a Tenax might be too much to bear. I can't go off the wagon this soon.

I have a Robot somewhere in my camera cabinet. I can bring it out next time we meet up if you'd like
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Ed Wenn on February 02, 2016, 01:18:16 PM
Robo was one of the many drummers to have provided the back beat for the US punk band, Black Flag over the years. I was actually quite disappointed to find that Francois had made a typo and that the guy didn't have a camera named after him. That would have been awesome.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: 02Pilot on February 02, 2016, 02:03:18 PM
I'm begging you, please stop talking about square format 35mm cameras. I'm just starting to successfully thin my accumulation of cameras (somewhere between a collection and a pile), and the renewed temptation of a Robot or a Tenax might be too much to bear. I can't go off the wagon this soon.

I have a Robot somewhere in my camera cabinet. I can bring it out next time we meet up if you'd like

So...much...temptation...must...resist...

Oh, hell, bring it. What's the worst that could happen? (looks for space on shelf)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Francois on February 02, 2016, 02:36:07 PM
Robo was one of the many drummers to have provided the back beat for the US punk band, Black Flag over the years. I was actually quite disappointed to find that Francois had made a typo and that the guy didn't have a camera named after him. That would have been awesome.
Boy was that a long time ago!
I can't remember if if he played on their live 10 1/2 album?
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Aksel on February 02, 2016, 02:46:07 PM
cameras, cameras, cameras!
So many to play with out there  :P


In love with:
Speed Graphic 4x5
Leica M4 / MP
Rolleiflex 2.8F
Ricoh GR1v
Polaroid Land 190 / 250
Widelux F7


Love to use:
Fuji GW690
Fuji GA645(zi)
Bronica 645RF
Zeiss Super Ikonta 534
Mamiya 7II
Olympus Mju II
wista 45 sp
Leica M2 / M3 / M6 / M7
Hexar RF
Hexar AF
Zeiss Ikon ZM
Contax T2/T3 / G1/G2 / RTS
Nikon F5 / F100 / FE2 / l35 aw af
Hasselblad X-Pan
Hasselblad SWC
Mamiya 6
Holga 120


Not sure about but can´t get rid of:
Sprocket rocket
Pentax ME
Agat 18k
Ensign Ful-Vue
Nikonos V
Leica CM
Pentax 67
Lomo L-CA


Not for me:
Nikon 28Ti/35Ti
Wista 45DX
Shen-Hao HZX
Olympus OM 1/2/4
Contax TVS
Fuji GF670
Hasselblad 500 series
Mamiya RB67
Leica M5 / CL







Just don´t ask me which one if it had to be only one...

Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Adam Doe on February 02, 2016, 08:10:34 PM
Robo was one of the many drummers to have provided the back beat for the US punk band, Black Flag over the years. I was actually quite disappointed to find that Francois had made a typo and that the guy didn't have a camera named after him. That would have been awesome.

He played with The Misfits as well. Now I really wonder why there isn't a camera named for him. The Lomo Robo has quite a ring to it, don't you think?
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: johan_lindgren on April 17, 2016, 12:08:42 AM
Bond:
Nikon FA
Nikon FE
Bronica S
Bronica EC-TL
Mamiya 645 (as long as they have a wlf)
Sprocket Rocket
Agfa Record I
Zeiss Ikon Nettar
Holga 120cfn/gcfn
Holga wpc120
Nikon F5
Yashica-Mat
Lubitel
Recesky TLR
Pentax Q7 (digi..)
LC-A

Trying to bond:
Toyo 45AII
Lumiere Scoutbox camera
M42-stuff

Dont care about:
Nikon F90
Nikon D600

Not bond:
Polaroid 600se
Nikon F2as
Zeiss ikon super ikonta IV
Diana
Minolta 5000 AF
Any other rangefinder
Any other polaroid
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Flippy on April 17, 2016, 10:35:31 AM
Bonded With:
Edixa Prismaflex (I've enjoyed all the Edixa Reflex cameras so far, but this one most)
K.W. Pilot 6
Zorki 4
Exakta VX500
Exa (original)

Not bonded:
Zorki 6
Fed 4,5,5b
Leica IIIf
Pentax (all I've tried so far)
Halina 35x
Yashica A
Rolleicord (want to give more of a chance)
Exa 1b, II, etc.

indifferent:
Fed 3
Super Ricohflex
Ciro 35
Zodiac (diana clone)
Miranda D, DR, F etc.
Smena
Argus C3

The edixa surpised me. I didn't think I would appreciate it. They're supposed to be bad cameras, and I have had a few come to me that I cannot get to work, but most seem to just need a little cleaning and a few minuscule drops of oil to come back to life.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Terry on April 17, 2016, 10:24:24 PM
Bonded with:
Yashica 44 (x5)
Gundlach Korona 5x7 (I love shooting with this)
Bronicas (SQ-A and ETRSi)
Exakta VX

Not bonded (though I tried):
Ikoflex (lovely camera, just didn't speak to me)
Balda
Nikkormat
Zorki
Polaroids (I really wanted to love them but I don't)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Mab on April 18, 2016, 02:51:45 PM
Bonded with:

-# Nikon F100. I keep on dreaming of a F6.
-# all Nikon FM/FE type cameras I've ever used.
-# Rollei 35.

- My most expensive camera ever was a Leica M4-P with Summilux 50mm/1.4 lens. Sadly, we never became friends.
- I've never found a 120 format camera I could use permanently.
- I once bought a 4x5 camera on a whim and hated it almost instantaneously.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: clagom on April 22, 2016, 12:43:52 PM
[including just film cameras]

Bonded with
- Leica M6
- Leica Minilux
- Ricoh GR1v
- Yashica T3 Super
- Lubitel 2
- Polaroid Spectra

I enjoy for short use
- Nikon L35AF2
- Yashica T4 was great until it broke
- Konica A4 was good until it broke
- Olympus XA2
- Lomo Belair / instant back (missed opportunity)

Not bonded with
- Yashica Electro 35 (nice results and lens, but not bonded with the camera)
- Olympus Mju II, still use it because of portability and great results, but not a fan of the camera itself
- Leica Mini III
- Canon Sure Shot Z135
- Olympus Mju II Zoom 80
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: gsgary on April 22, 2016, 07:02:09 PM
Fuji GW690 is new love of my life

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Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: LEAFotography on April 25, 2016, 09:25:35 AM
It's been a long time since I last posted (redundancy, dealing Ma's hospitalization, lethargy) but I'm finally getting my time and filmwasting passion back.

I've bonded with:
Pentax ME Super
Canon AE1
Bronica ETRSi
Bronica EC-TL
Fuji GX680 (the Beast)
Fuji G690bl
Olympus Trip
Disposable 35mm Cameras (still appearing at car boot sales!)

I've not bonded with:
Nikon FM2 - I just can't focus this beauty :(
PentaxP30n
Hasselblad 500c - sadly neglected in favour of my EC-TL, and range of lenses

There are lots of cameras folks are listing that I've never had the pleasure of using or owning!
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: hookstrapped on June 15, 2016, 08:11:20 PM
I had to modify my "Bonded with" entry and put Minolta TC-1 at the top of the list... my precious  :-*
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: cs1 on March 11, 2018, 08:18:56 PM
Wow, what a cool thread. Would it be completely out of line if I resurrected this thread? It's so nice (and historical for that matter). :)

I'm begging you, please stop talking about square format 35mm cameras. I'm just starting to successfully thin my accumulation of cameras (somewhere between a collection and a pile), and the renewed temptation of a Robot or a Tenax might be too much to bear. I can't go off the wagon this soon.
There's strong evidence in a recent thread that you fell for the Tenax. ;) Did you resist getting the Robot?

Here's my list:

Bonded:
Canon F- (my trusty workhorse; the best camera I own (at least in my eyes))
Canon A-1 (the "little brother" of my F-1)
Lipca Rollop I
Olympus 35RC (the nicest compact rangefinder I own; reliable and with an excellent lens)
Zeiss Ikon Tenax (I take it if you don't want to waste film)
Agfa Synchro Frankenbox (the loveliest box I've seen so far; I'm a little biased ;) )
Yashica T3 (RIP; dropped it & it died)

Not bonded:
Any Minox 35
Any Zeiss Ikon Box-Tengor (I don't know why, they simply don't seem to give me results like I get with the Agfa Box)
Canon AE-1 Program (it's not an A-1 and absolutely not an F-1)

Undecided:
Yashica Electro GSN (I like it but it's not as practical as the Olympus 35RC; it's also got this stupid Archilles Heel that when a piece of foam is flat it stops working properly)
Rollei 35
Leica Z2X (nice camera but too... modern)
Exa 1b
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: 02Pilot on March 11, 2018, 10:26:41 PM
Wow, what a cool thread. Would it be completely out of line if I resurrected this thread? It's so nice (and historical for that matter). :)

I'm begging you, please stop talking about square format 35mm cameras. I'm just starting to successfully thin my accumulation of cameras (somewhere between a collection and a pile), and the renewed temptation of a Robot or a Tenax might be too much to bear. I can't go off the wagon this soon.
There's strong evidence in a recent thread that you fell for the Tenax. ;) Did you resist getting the Robot?

The Tenax I got was quite cheap and pretty beat up, but it came with the unobtanium 362/2 yellow filter. I have resisted the Robot (I'd prefer the Royal Robot in 24x24) and the Tenax II so far, but both are tempting.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: chris667 on March 12, 2018, 08:20:17 AM
Bonded:

Spotmatic. The best SLR for just getting out of your way ever, with every button and dial in the correct place.
Zenit E/B. Cheap and easy to relax around. If it gets broken, I can fix it! If it gets stolen, I am down the price of a cup of coffee!
Minolta 7000. If it only had a depth of field preview, it would be perfect. Easy to understand, which is more than you can say about every other autofocus SLR.
Rollei 35B. I can take a camera anywhere.

Didn't bond:
Olympus OM4: I spent a vast fortune on this when I didn't have any money and was basically a kid. It self destructed.
OM1: I always left the meter on.
Pentax MX: too small.
Canon EOS: all too complex. Depth mode. Eh?
Nikon: too clunky
Leica: I have always been worried about breaking any Leica I have owned, so I always got rid.

TL;DR: My Pentax Spotmatic could easily be the only camera I use for the rest of my life.  In terms of results, it loses nothing to a Leica, and costs about ⅛ of the price even with eBay encouraging people to butcher them.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: MiguelCampano on March 12, 2018, 09:05:06 PM
Bonded:
Canon F1 (my very first camera, when I turned 14)
Nikon FM2
Canon AE-1
Canon A-1
Yashica Electro 35 GSN
Nikon N6006s
Canon EOS 650
Canon EOS Elan 7

Not Bonded:
Olympus XA
Fujica Compact 35
Nikon N4004s
Canon EOS Rebel 2000
Pentax ME
My ex-wife.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Indofunk on March 12, 2018, 11:31:58 PM
Bonded:
Canon F1 (my very first camera, when I turned 14)
Nikon FM2
Canon AE-1
Canon A-1
Yashica Electro 35 GSN
Nikon N6006s
Canon EOS 650
Canon EOS Elan 7

Not Bonded:
Olympus XA
Fujica Compact 35
Nikon N4004s
Canon EOS Rebel 2000
Pentax ME
My ex-wife.

Bahahahaha my bonded list would include the Olympus XA and the Pentax ME :D Also possibly the Fujica, which is a perfectly acceptable camera except it didn't fill any void in my camera collection ;)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: zapsnaps on March 13, 2018, 08:27:18 AM
Good idea to resurrect this thread as we no doubt have additional bonding/non-bonding thoughts to share as our collection alters.

Bonded
Instax Mini neo Classic 90, which, worryingly, I can't find at the moment

non-bonder
Minolta Prod (no, really - that's its name) - bought it for its looks and that's about it. Still a looker to me, but not really a user. Having said that, I may take it for a spin this weekend and try and bond with it. Perhaps it's like its looks - just a troublesome teenager.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Francois on March 13, 2018, 02:15:31 PM
Funny you should mention not bonding with Minoltas.
Information some odd reason love my manual focus Minoltas but never got around to liking the maxxum series....
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: collodion on March 14, 2018, 05:18:36 PM
Here we go....

Bonded with:
Leica M3
Olympus OM4T
Nikon F
Contax IIa
Leica IIIC
Zorki 3
Nikonos V
Minox GT
Kodak Medalist II
Voigtlander Bessa II w Skopar
RB Graflex 2x3
4x5 speed graphic

Not bonded with:
Yashica 12
Bronica C
Rolleiflex G
Mamaya RB67
5x7 Press Graflex
Olympus IS3

Undecided:
Konica Autoreflex T3
Kodak Signet 35 & 40
Voigtlander Vito II
Super Ikonta IIIC
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: cs1 on March 31, 2018, 05:03:34 PM
I need to revise my list:

Bonded:
Canon F-1 (my trusty workhorse; the best camera I own (at least in my eyes))
Zenza Bronica SQ-A
Canon A-1 (the "little brother" of my F-1)
Lipca Rollop I
Olympus 35RC (the nicest compact rangefinder I own; reliable and with an excellent lens)
Zeiss Ikon Tenax (I take it if you don't want to waste film)
Agfa Synchro Frankenbox (the loveliest box I've seen so far; I'm a little biased ;) )
Yashica T3 (RIP; dropped it & it died)

Not bonded:
Any Minox 35
Any Zeiss Ikon Box-Tengor (I don't know why, they simply don't seem to give me results like I get with the Agfa Box)
Canon AE-1 Program (it's not an A-1 and absolutely not an F-1)

Undecided:
Yashica Electro GSN (I like it but it's not as practical as the Olympus 35RC; it's also got this stupid Archilles Heel that when a piece of foam is flat it stops working properly)
Rollei 35
Leica Z2X (nice camera but too... modern)
Exa 1b
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: rattymouse on March 31, 2018, 06:47:47 PM


Bonded:

Fujifilm GF670
Fujifilm GF670W
Fujifilm TX-1
Fujifilm GA645
Nikon FM2n

Not bonded:

None.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: astrobeck on April 01, 2018, 02:46:45 PM
This is an additional bond post...

Zenit E
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: cs1 on April 01, 2018, 02:59:40 PM
Zenit E
Very sturdy choice, looks like a real workhorse. :) What lenses do you like to use with it? Do you have a Helios 44-2 (wasn't that the standard lens it came with?)?
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: astrobeck on April 01, 2018, 08:34:51 PM
I'm lately smitten with the Industar 50-2
3.5  50 mm
I do have the Helios and like it too (I think they were native for the Zenits) , but the Industar is very small and handy to have. It almost looks like a toy lens, it's got that insignificant look that only those in the know would consider.
I have a film drying in the bathroom to share later from an early morning outing.

Check out the lens though. It's quite sweet.. I had to wait over a month for mine to arrive from over yonder Ukraine way.
http://vintage-camera-lenses.com/industar-50-2-3-5-50/ (http://vintage-camera-lenses.com/industar-50-2-3-5-50/)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Bryan on April 01, 2018, 08:57:21 PM
My Zenit B came with an Industar-50-2, it’s a nice lens.  I also have it in M39 mount. 
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: cs1 on December 11, 2018, 07:51:31 AM
Here's my updated list:

Bonded:
Canon F-1
Zenza Bronica SQ-A
Lipca Rollop I
Olympus 35RC
Zeiss Ikon Tenax
Agfa Synchro Frankenbox
Olympus OM-1
Yashica Electro 35 GSN
Canon T70

Not bonded:
Any Minox 35
Any Zeiss Ikon Box-Tengor (I have a 54/2 and a 56/2; if anyone is interested in one of them or both, please let me know)
Voigtländer Brillant (I'm probably going to sell this, too)

Undecided:
Rollei 35
Leica Z2X (nice camera but too... modern)
Exa 1b
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Francois on December 11, 2018, 03:14:46 PM
I'd really have to work hard these days to figure out which ones are my favorites....
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: cs1 on December 11, 2018, 08:14:40 PM
When I dug up this thread I was surprised that my selection has been quite steady since the last time I updated the list.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Francois on December 11, 2018, 09:15:52 PM
So far, I've been thinking about it and here's a short version in the "I think" mode.
But it could change any day if I get my hand on a new toy.

Bonded with:
Agat-18
Fed 5B
YashicaMat
Nikon F90x
Sprocket Rocket
Watch pinhole camera
Minolta X-370

Not bonded with:
Diana Mini
BBF
Coronet 3D

But I still have a ton of cameras to try...
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: grit on December 19, 2018, 07:41:48 PM
Bonded:
Mamiya RZ67 Pro II. The mirror thwack is just so satisfying.
Fuji X-E1, especially with a 56mm f/1.2 on there. I don't care if it's a crop sensor, these are the sharpest results I've ever gotten from a digital camera, and it's still light enough to travel with.
Nikon D700. I didn't bond with it until sea spray got on the sensor and I got it repaired mainly because I hate the idea of a camera going to the landfill.

On-again off-again relationship:
Nikon D800. Wonderful for food and product photography, but it's more of a workhorse than a personality. The Hufflepuff of cameras.

Just arrived:
An Intrepid 4x5 MK3. We'll see how it goes!
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: zapsnaps on December 21, 2018, 08:02:49 AM
Since this thread started, I may have 'saved' on or two more cameras from the scrap heap of time.

Bonded with a very cute half frame Fujica mini in black. It's a looker (to my eyes) and a keeper. The meter even works. Been wanting a half frame for a while.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: hookstrapped on April 16, 2019, 02:31:37 PM
Updates, updates...

Bonded with
Minolta TC-1
Rollei 35S
Mamiya 6
Chamonix 45-N2
Leica M2
Diana
Gakkenflex
Olympus Trip 35
Pentax SV
Minolta Autocord
Konica II

Not bonded with
Ricoh GR1
Canonet
Olympus XA
Holga
Robot Star 50
Fuji FP-1
Contax T


Edit: added Konica II http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=9795.0 (http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=9795.0)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Francois on April 16, 2019, 03:03:27 PM
Well.... I recently bonded with a camera I was building.... But not in the usual sense.
Let's just say that it involved cyanoacrylate glue and a finger... ::)
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: astrobeck on April 16, 2019, 03:45:36 PM
This is one of the threads that I go back to from time to time just to see who likes what camera and possibly why.

My recent bonds have changed....
I'm still in love with my K1000, but recently have a strong attraction to my RB67.
The Holga is still a true love and a Vivitar Wide and Slim is almost always tucked in a side pocket in my truck.

Also, for recent road trips I've been taking disposables again. I like the freedom they allow.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Indofunk on April 17, 2019, 12:40:13 AM
Updates, updates...

Bonded with
Minolta TC-1
Rollei 35S
Mamiya 6
Chamonix 45-N2
Leica M2
Diana
Gakkenflex
Olympus Trip 35
Pentax SV
Minolta Autocord

Not bonded with
Ricoh GR1
Canonet
Olympus XA
Holga
Robot Star 50
Fuji FP-1
Contax T

Take Peter's list, reverse it, and you got mine  ;D ;D ;D

(let me say, it is very very convenient being friends with this guy, and local ;) )
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Bryan on April 17, 2019, 12:53:32 AM
I can understand not bonding with the Contax T, it's not at all ergonomic, but the lens and size make up for that.
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Kai-san on April 17, 2019, 12:38:15 PM
Dial in the green marks on the aperture and distance, and the Contax T is a real street machine. It's dead quiet and so small you can have it in your pocket even if you have another camera slung over your shoulder. Perfect!  :P
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: hookstrapped on April 17, 2019, 12:50:31 PM
Rationally, I understand why the Contax T is such a great camera. That's why I bought it!

But my heart says otherwise...
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Indofunk on April 18, 2019, 03:54:14 AM
.... plus me bugging him every day to give it to me  ;D
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Indofunk on April 18, 2019, 03:58:12 AM
The f/8 green dot thing for some reason hasn't worked consistently for me. Maybe because I generally like close focusing, so an "everything from 6ft to infinity in focus" doesn't give me that experience. But whatever, it's super ergonomic for me, focusing is easy and the rangefinder patch is bright, I just screwed up and let it take a huge spill, after which the film counter stopped working :( Everything else seems fine, apart from a badly dented top left corner and dangerously loose top plate ... looks like there's the possibility of light leaks but I haven't seen any yet...
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Francois on April 18, 2019, 02:05:44 PM
Ouch!
Title: Re: Bonding with / not bonding with cameras
Post by: Kai-san on April 18, 2019, 08:14:54 PM
Ouch indeed! The counter problem could just be a loose connector (or worse). You should definitely try to dismantle the top and try to straighten it out enough to fit securely. At the same time you could check out the counter connection in case there is something that can be done about it.
At least now we know why you keep pestering Hookstrapped to give up his T.  ;)