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Which Board? => Main Forum => : LT February 28, 2013, 09:18:42 PM
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Available from all the usual places/formats.
(PS - we need your clips so you dont have to keep putting up with my ugly mug !!!!)
11: Mighty TiTAN Mk II - March 2013 on Vimeo (http://vimeo.com/60680136)
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great stuff leon, looks a quality camera and the review does it justice!
btw, i dont need that link again..... you posted it here
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Great video again Leon very tempting, I must try and resist.
J.
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Leon, this is VERY well done. Your professionalism will get us a bad name one of these days ;D How polished and watchable is this? Well done that man....and again, great camera work from Helen.
I hope you're looking forward to shooting some footage of Damion and I arseing around at Focus next Wednesday? We may have to be extra childish to redress the balance.
:P ;)
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Excellent, Leon. A really enjoyable watch.
Ed, I'm sure Damion and yourself will redress the balance!
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Phil: You can count on it. 8)
Leon: Most important question re the podcast....do you have an Ercol table? The one in the vid seems to have the classic Ercol grain and curved edges, but I can't remember seeing one at Taylor-Tharp Towers before.
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Another thumbs up for an excellent podcast Leon... your images ain't bad either!
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Leon: Most important question re the podcast....do you have an Ercol table? The one in the vid seems to have the classic Ercol grain and curved edges, but I can't remember seeing one at Taylor-Tharp Towers before.
The widegrain of classic Ercol Elm? Original 60's Golden Dawn? Of bloody course we do. Mrs Taylor-Tharp is an ercol-lunatic.
Coffee table, oval collapsible dining tables, rectangle dining tables, chairs (rocking and normal) - we've got the lot. Do you want some? Please take some away with you next time you visit. I need some space back in my house (for more cameras).
L.
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exemplary review leon! I really enjoyed watching this and it made me think a bit more on putting together something like this.
oh, andgreat tip with the filter on the inside to up the contrast 8)
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really great video. I enjoyed it. Had to laugh at the beginning though well done!
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And a nice wind-up mantle clock to boot :)
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Sweet.
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What a great vid - well done Leon!
By the way, where is the swimming pool you were shooting?
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Nigel - its at Ramsgate , under the westcliff.
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And a nice wind-up mantle clock to boot :)
yeah, I thought I recognized it from somewhere ;)
(http://farm3.staticflickr.com/2001/5759065592_dd296b527b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leontaylor/5759065592/)
Clock - Harman DPP (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leontaylor/5759065592/#) by LeonTaylor27 (http://www.flickr.com/people/leontaylor/), on Flickr
great shot by the way!
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ed: no link about this and the latest collab up on the frontpage yet? ;)
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ed: no link about this and the latest collab up on the frontpage yet? ;)
I know, the delay is killing me. Now, who do I call to get this sorted?
Oh, wait....
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Great Video Leon,
my six penneth is I have always used 2 tripods on any large format film wasting ........its saves finding out later......doesn't need to be posh tripods.................wind breaks are too difficult to do and they become spinnakers .
As the camera is so light too perhaps same added weight as ballast is good for me that's usually a camera bag.
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Thanks Greg. What do you use the extra tripod for?
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Thanks Greg. What do you use the extra tripod for?
Sir two tripods rock solid......one tripod sways in a breeze with a big camera !
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I still don't understand Greg - how can you use a second tripod on a camera with only 1 tripod Mount? Maybe a picture or some descriptive writing would help?
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Perhaps Greg is thinking of a normal 10x8? i.e. http://www.lakedistrictlargeformat.com/onlocation2.html (http://www.lakedistrictlargeformat.com/onlocation2.html)
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Perhaps Greg is thinking of a normal 10x8? i.e. http://www.lakedistrictlargeformat.com/onlocation2.html (http://www.lakedistrictlargeformat.com/onlocation2.html)
Yes Paul that's the sort of thing, as we mostly never have a second tripod screw (unless its a long 35mm lens for eg) them the 2nd tripod is really just stressing the support into a solid support and so it will be much much better for long exposures in a gale. Usually the second tripod is either attached via a clamp or my favorite is a nice healthy dob of blue tack !
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OK - I see. Thanks Greg & Paul. Actually, there might be a way of doing this with the Harman titan. It has a tripod bushes for landscape and portrait positions. I could use the second tripod at a right angle - I'll have a go and take some pics at the weekend.
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What a great podcast, thanks for making and posting!
I really like those images you made. The size is way out of my league for film negatives though direct positive paper (is this made in 8x10), negative papers, and alt-process emulsion coated paper may be an alternative.
The stability issue poses a challenge though, as you illustrated. Two fixing points will really help, but three points should be the most stable though may spoil the design along the base. Also using a tripod with an extremely short/solid neck supporting the mount might help further. There's often a breeze wherever I go outside.
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I've been thinking about the two tripod thing and I'm not convinced at all.
When I look at the Titan 8x10, it seems to be both big and light. Now that is where the problem lies.
Because it's big, it has a lot of air resistance.
Because it's light, it has very little inertia.
So, the slightest breeze will get it moving but the lack of inertia will cause vibration (fast movement).
The best thing would be a device similar to the stabilizers archers use.
Using three would stabilize lateral and front motion. Here's a simple one I found on Youtube.
How To Make DIY Bow Stabilizer (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcvXWNAVcl8#ws)
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mate its not really possible to have a tripod plinth with a concrete foundation ! thats my optimum so anything close is going to do it , after all its just a method of stability and sometimes that requires two tripods. I hate camera shake but two tripods help big time ! and btw my worst was three ( not wanting to bragg)
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and btw my worst was three ( not wanting to bragg)
Which begs the question: where do you stand to focus, adjust and expose?
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Late last night, I got thinking about the camera's stability... and in a half-sleep mode, I thought about a skyscraper. And surprisingly, it's a good comparison.
If you take two buildings of somewhat similar height like the Empire State and the Sears Tower. The Empire State is very stable as it is covered in masonry. The Sears Tower on the other hand is very light being covered by glass and wobbles like crazy. To make it liveable, light buildings rely on a mechanical stabilizer on the top floors. Some use a pendulum attached with shock absorbers, others use an oil tank with an anti-wave system and others use a block of concrete that floats on a thin sheet of oil and is kept in place with shock absorbers.
The Titan 8x10 reminds me of light skyscrapers. Now, there are a few ways it can get stabilized. Adding weight to it would be one. But the best would be to have the camera side mounted on some type of very rigid gimbals (a bit like most field cameras). This would reduce the height by half and make it at least half as susceptible to movement.
As a last ditch effort, being able to mount some stabilizing device to the hotshoe would be the simplest thing to do.
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Seriously .... Everyone, it doesn't need any of this talk of three tripods, skyscrapers with pendulums or anything else!. Just one reasonable tripod, and a little care and the camera is fine. Have you seen how sharp the shots are that I took with it? If not, here they are again ... If only to put a stop to all this faff ;D:
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8520/8515634617_5af1e3fae7_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leontaylor/8515634617/)
Harman TiTAN 8x10 3 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leontaylor/8515634617/#) by LeonTaylor27 (http://www.flickr.com/people/leontaylor/), on Flickr
(http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8530/8515634291_15ab93c825_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leontaylor/8515634291/)
Harman TiTAN 8x10 5 (http://www.flickr.com/photos/leontaylor/8515634291/#) by LeonTaylor27 (http://www.flickr.com/people/leontaylor/), on Flickr
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Thank the lord! Or, a vegetarian alternative!
They look better and better, Leon.
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You know, I could also re-build one out of fiberglass reinforced concrete ;)
Guaranteed not to budge. As a bonus, it could be used as a doorstop, bookend, boat anchor, camera bag theft deterrent, paperweight, jack-stand for when you do the brakes on your car, window sill, bench support, trivet... ;) :o ::) :P ???
OK, it's fine :)
It probably simply needs a bigger tripod than you'd expect.
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It probably simply needs a bigger tripod than you'd expect.
Nope - not even that.
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Well, that's nice. I wouldn't see myself carrying the big pods usually required by the larger cameras!
Though I would like to get my hands on the gear heads they often use :)
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We tried it on a heavier tripod and head at Dungeness and it made no difference. I think that it just has to be seen as one of the quirks of this particular camera and treated accordingly. Indeed, as Leon's images show, it's more about the person behind the camera than the camera itself.
Paul
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If stability is a problem wouldn't a steel L bracket mounted to both tripodsockets (and the tripod offcource) stabilize the thing?
Best regards
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I thought about it but looking back at the video, the frame seems to have enough bracing to handle the strain... Besides, if it did warp much, there would be a ton of light leaks and fitting issues.
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I thought about it but looking back at the video, the frame seems to have enough bracing to handle the strain... Besides, if it did warp much, there would be a ton of light leaks and fitting issues.
Well it was just a thought as Leon mentioned stability as an issue. even if it seem like the bracing is enough it looks like it could be just a tiny bit flexible. Hmm Ill try it out myself if I get one.
BTW great pics Leon as always. they do look sharp.
Best regards
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Yep, those images look pretty good to me!
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I thought about it but looking back at the video, the frame seems to have enough bracing to handle the strain... Besides, if it did warp much, there would be a ton of light leaks and fitting issues.
Well it was just a thought as Leon mentioned stability as an issue. even if it seem like the bracing is enough it looks like it could be just a tiny bit flexible. Hmm Ill try it out myself if I get one.
BTW great pics Leon as always. they do look sharp.
Best regards
let's put all this to bed. The stability issue is only as bad as it is for any 8x10 camera. Taking care in use means there is no stability issue.
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Don't leave it on the radiator and you won't have any problems ;D
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OK people as a paid up member of the two tripods are groovy work group , I have to say that in my experience my usual tripod of a large gitzo and a suppprting manfrotto work very well with long exposures ie greater than an 1/8sec. from 8x10 to even 35mm .
Leon I think you were very lucky not to have shake , maybe it is your lightness of touch !
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Now available to order:
http://www.harmanexpress.com/prod/96/HARMAN-TiTAN-Pinhole-Camera-8x10in-Accessories.htm (http://www.harmanexpress.com/prod/96/HARMAN-TiTAN-Pinhole-Camera-8x10in-Accessories.htm)
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Yay!