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The New Yorker: Vivian Maier's color photographs
« on: November 09, 2018, 03:05:58 PM »
Posted today in The New Yorker's "Photo Booth" section.

https://www.newyorker.com/culture/photo-booth/what-vivian-maier-saw-in-color

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Re: The New Yorker: Vivian Maier's color photographs
« Reply #1 on: November 09, 2018, 03:35:56 PM »
Thanks for sharing this article.

I love Vivian Maier's work a lot. I feel a little ambivalent about the fact that she never had any intentions to make her work public but it still has been published without her consent. But then again there're plenty of examples were literature or other work of art has been published posthumously. Anyhow, her black and white work is brilliant because she had a sense for what's interesting and she documented her surroundings (suburban or urban like Chicago) with a great sense of perspective and also with a subtle humour. I find it fascinating that you get the impression that she was just as proficient with color film. However, you should never forget that she shot heaps of rolls of film and it'd be very interesting to know how the published color pictures were curated.

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Re: The New Yorker: Vivian Maier's color photographs
« Reply #2 on: November 09, 2018, 06:38:50 PM »
I understand your concerns about the photos being published without her consent. I look at it this way, though: Vivian Maier had no descendants and appears to have had few family members who knew her. Had she not been a photographer, or had her archive been lost or trashed, she'd have been forgotten to time. Because of her work and the effort to "find" her, the memory of Vivian Maier will live on. On balance, I think it's a fair trade.

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Re: The New Yorker: Vivian Maier's color photographs
« Reply #3 on: November 09, 2018, 06:45:27 PM »
I like this author's analysis of Maier's images, but the editor should have challenged Scott on her hollow and lazy claims of sexism in this article.

"I’ve never heard anyone ask how another exceptional Chicago outsider, the visionary writer and artist Henry Darger, could have produced his fifteen-thousand-page magnum opus while holding down a job as a janitor."

Try to find any important article about Henry Darger without the word “janitor” in it. You won’t find one because his day job is an important part of his story, just as being a nanny is an important part of Vivian’s story. Artists-with-day-jobs has been a topic of discussion forever, and is not sexist.

“He [Meyerowitz] concludes, rightly, that “Maier was an early poet of color photography.” But he also floats a wince-inducing theory about her knack for snatching secrets, what he terms all great street photographers’ “cloak of invisibility”: “She’s as plain as an old-fashioned schoolmarm. She’s the wallflower, the spinster aunt, the ungainly tourist in the big city . . . except . . . she isn’t!” Has Henri Cartier-Bresson’s “decisive moment” ever been defined in terms of his looks?”

Of course it matters what street photographers look like, especially since they're often trying to blend in or play some role while they work. Cartier-Bresson was a good looking, wealthy dandy gliding through his scenes. Meyerowitz (the subject of her complaint) is a tall bald man dressed like a ninja, all black with a black knit cap. (He even made a video about how to blend in on the street while wearing that ridiculous get-up.) Even Weegee with his trench coat and omnipresent cigar hanging from his lips was playing a role while he worked. And goodness, just think of hulking in-your-face Bruce Gilden! It's entirely fair for Meyerowitz the ninja to notice the appearance of Maier, another street ninja, while praising her work. He’s earned that, without being labeled sexist.

As for the color photos, well damn, she's wonderful in color too. Looks like I need to place an order for yet another Maier book.

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Re: The New Yorker: Vivian Maier's color photographs
« Reply #4 on: November 09, 2018, 07:17:41 PM »
I understand your concerns about the photos being published without her consent. I look at it this way, though: Vivian Maier had no descendants and appears to have had few family members who knew her. Had she not been a photographer, or had her archive been lost or trashed, she'd have been forgotten to time. Because of her work and the effort to "find" her, the memory of Vivian Maier will live on. On balance, I think it's a fair trade.
I agree with you. I'm comfortable looking at her work. I'd even buy a book. She must've been a very interesting person. It's a gift to be able to express so much with an image. And to have the courage to even go to bad parts in a big city as Chicago to document things that are interesting.

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Re: The New Yorker: Vivian Maier's color photographs
« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2018, 09:28:33 PM »
I don't know if it's just me but I keep obsessing over that photo with a lot of yellow!
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Re: The New Yorker: Vivian Maier's color photographs
« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2018, 10:22:34 PM »
It's not just you. It's my favourite of the shots in that article.

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Re: The New Yorker: Vivian Maier's color photographs
« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2018, 03:14:54 PM »
Looks like the book is now on Amazon, just in time for holiday shoppers  :)

https://theonlinephotographer.typepad.com/the_online_photographer/2018/11/vivian-maier-the-color-work.html

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Re: The New Yorker: Vivian Maier's color photographs
« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2018, 09:50:27 PM »
Not surprising since most major book fairs take place around this time of the year...
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Re: The New Yorker: Vivian Maier's color photographs
« Reply #9 on: November 16, 2018, 05:00:24 PM »
I hope to see those prints in the gallery setting before they close the show. It ought to be worth the effort to get there.