Author Topic: New film photography magazine (Read 5223 times)

gsgary · « **on:** April 21, 2017, 06:31:39 PM »

Not sure if anyone has posted about this I found out about it on Facebook
https://www.photoklassik.de/
There is going to be an English edition coming out soon

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Francois · « **Reply #1 on:** April 21, 2017, 08:34:37 PM »

Looks pretty good. As long as they don't use Google Translate for their articles, we should be OK

jharr · « **Reply #2 on:** April 21, 2017, 09:11:28 PM »

er... $42 per issue? I think I'll just hang out here for free.

Francois · « **Reply #3 on:** April 21, 2017, 10:24:26 PM »

Oh yeah, free is my kind of price

John Robison · « **Reply #4 on:** April 22, 2017, 01:44:51 AM »

Quote from: jharr on April 21, 2017, 09:11:28 PM

er... $42 per issue? I think I'll just hang out here for free.

Probably the actual cost of producing a print magazine without advertising or other sponsorship?
Popular Photography just shut down, both print and online. (and they had advertising) The print magazine has declined almost to extinction, not to mention real newspapers and other print media. Everyone (including me) has come to expect content to be free and so much of what we get that is free is worth exactly what we are willing to pay.

Flippy · « **Reply #5 on:** April 22, 2017, 06:48:39 AM »

Depends on how they print it. About five years ago I was involved with an art magazine, oversized and full color, each issue cost about $24 (to the buyer, not to print), per issue and it was of very high quality offset printing. Contributors were paid. It was made (so far as I know) with no intention of making a profit though, just as an outlet for artists and a way to get new talent a paid gig. $42 sounds high, but if they're wanting to make an actual profit with a quality product, that might very well be what they have to charge.

MacArron · « **Reply #6 on:** April 22, 2017, 08:08:35 AM »

I see 9,80 EUR per magazine... Why do you say $42?

Late Developer · « **Reply #7 on:** April 22, 2017, 10:04:10 AM »

Quote from: MacArron on April 22, 2017, 08:08:35 AM

I see 9,80 EUR per magazine... Why do you say $42?

Yeah, I was wondering that. Not disputing that there must be some mention of $42 but I haven't seen it - but I have seen the EUR price at 9.80.

I suspect that a lot might also hinge upon branding. Whenever a new copy of Leica's "M" magazine is published, I buy it (£12 quarterly) as the photographers are usually excellent and the production quality is as good as I've seen. It can be downloaded and viewed on screen for free but I still prefer a hard copy. I also subscribe to the UK's "Black and White" magazine - but that's about it. The rest (mostly digital) tend to be little more than a series of adverts and "tests" masquerading as articles.

gsgary · « **Reply #8 on:** April 22, 2017, 12:50:47 PM »

Quote from: Flippy on April 22, 2017, 06:48:39 AM

Depends on how they print it. About five years ago I was involved with an art magazine, oversized and full color, each issue cost about $24 (to the buyer, not to print), per issue and it was of very high quality offset printing. Contributors were paid. It was made (so far as I know) with no intention of making a profit though, just as an outlet for artists and a way to get new talent a paid gig. $42 sounds high, but if they're wanting to make an actual profit with a quality product, that might very well be what they have to charge.

I'll be getting a subscription anything to help promote film

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jharr · « **Reply #9 on:** April 22, 2017, 02:15:46 PM »

Quote from: MacArron on April 22, 2017, 08:08:35 AM

I see 9,80 EUR per magazine... Why do you say $42?

My mistake. That is the subscription price for 4 issues. My German is non-existent, so I just saw the number and assumed it was for an issue. Still, I have never seen a magazine where I thought the print quality was worth the price. Having said that, my experience is with US newsstand publications. Sorry for the confusion.

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MacArron · « **Reply #10 on:** April 22, 2017, 03:21:02 PM »

Don't worry. I suspected that price was related to a subscription, but as my German is also non-existent I just searched the price on the cover and found the 9,80 EUR

It's all clear now. To me that price can be considered reasonable only if the quality is good (articles, photos and paper)

nachtiris · « **Reply #11 on:** April 28, 2017, 03:27:49 PM »

Hello, I own a couple of issues of this photo-mag. It focus on photo-enthusiasts and analogue-newbies. The printing quality is IMO very well. The editors belongs to this well moderated german forum: https://aphog.de/forum/

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #12 on:** May 01, 2017, 11:48:05 PM »

Hi,

I am one of the editors of PhotoKlassik Germany. PhotoKlassik -- the only print magazine in the world that focuses on film photography. We have already been sucessful for five years in Germany, Austria, and Switzerland.

We are at the moment working on our promotion video concerning the international issue.

First of all let me just give an Idea about the magazine itself. It will be not an english copy of the German issue and mainly focusing on the interantional market. The needs of German readers are definatly different. We will also publish articles from writers from all over the world.

The magazine will have always 100 pages and be printed on high quality paper like the German issue.

We will start with a very special offer for the first subscribers that includes also free shipping to your home worldwide. The price per Issue will be in the range of the German retail price.

we are all extreamly excited and we hope that we get a lot of support concerning this project.

Best regards

Marwan

Francois · « **Reply #13 on:** May 02, 2017, 02:54:06 PM »

Welcome Marwan!

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #14 on:** May 04, 2017, 12:14:23 AM »

Thank you! I hope I could answer mosto questions!

jojonas~ · « **Reply #15 on:** May 05, 2017, 08:06:02 AM »

Yes, welcome!
This is great news. I have little understanding of the german language but I've bought a few of your issues anyway. Swedish is close enough to get a rough idea of what's written

Kai-san · « **Reply #16 on:** May 05, 2017, 06:56:20 PM »

I've just purchased 4 of the German editions. I belong to a generation when German was mandatory in school in addition to English. Looking forward to this!

Miles · « **Reply #17 on:** May 06, 2017, 01:04:34 PM »

I'll be up for it, a nice quality Mag like "Delayed Gratification" is a lovely thing to hold.

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #18 on:** May 10, 2017, 04:48:11 PM »

Quote from: jojonas~ on May 05, 2017, 08:06:02 AM

Yes, welcome!
This is great news. I have little understanding of the german language but I've bought a few of your issues anyway. Swedish is close enough to get a rough idea of what's written

Well thats cool!!! To be honest when I was in a swedish super market I wanted to by simple milk.... I ended up with buttermilk in my coffee. Seems for germans swedish is the bigger challange

Quote from: jojonas~ on May 05, 2017, 08:06:02 AM

Yes, welcome!
This is great news. I have little understanding of the german language but I've bought a few of your issues anyway. Swedish is close enough to get a rough idea of what's written

Thank you guys ! This is great to read and it supports us in our project!

I'll keep you updated.

Regards

Marwan

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #19 on:** May 10, 2017, 04:59:59 PM »

Just a small outlook!

Thats the cover for the International Issue.

We had for our promotion video great support. The introduction for the project is done by the lady on the cover. US born native english speaker. She plays the first violine at the Frankfurt symphony orchestra.

Francois · « **Reply #20 on:** May 10, 2017, 09:14:45 PM »

I bet she plays better than I do

jojonas~ · « **Reply #21 on:** May 11, 2017, 10:00:57 AM »

I can't remember the last time all the headers on the frontpage of a magazine interested me -kudos!

the german-swedish challenge made me laugh

those I know of german descent learn the language quite well but they sure hang on to their german pronunciation

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #22 on:** May 15, 2017, 09:54:21 AM »

Quote from: Francois on May 10, 2017, 09:14:45 PM

I bet she plays better than I do

Well I am not an expert. I know she is defiantly good. Just check and make your own opinion..During the promotion video ist was a joy to listen......https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2nhK-yC-7-E

Quote from: jojonas~ on May 11, 2017, 10:00:57 AM

I can't remember the last time all the headers on the frontpage of a magazine interested me -kudos!

the german-swedish challenge made me laugh those I know of german descent learn the language quite well but they sure hang on to their german pronunciation

I hope we will meet and even exceed your expectations.

As long as they can pronounce Hasselblad and Volvo in the right way......

Best regards

I will keep you all updated!

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #23 on:** May 17, 2017, 05:41:49 PM »

Ok the promised update!

I can give now some hardfacts about the english version "PhotoKlassik International"

We expect the promotion video to be ready comming week. After final aproval we will launch the Kickstarter Project.

The magazine will be printed as the german issue in the same quality (high quality paper) and contain 100 pages per issue

The special offer for kickstarter backers will be for the first year subscription, quarterly issue, yearly price for will be 49 $ including shipment to your homeadress to any country in the world except PRC or North Korea. The normal subscription price after the Kickstarter will be 60$ and can be made via the PhotoKlassik website.

We are targeting at the moment to deliver the first issue by october this year!

Please stay tuned.

jojonas~ · « **Reply #24 on:** May 18, 2017, 12:55:19 PM »

thanks for the continued updates

Kai-san · « **Reply #25 on:** May 19, 2017, 06:03:04 PM »

My 4 copies of the German edition arrived today, sehr schön! The weather forecast for tomorrow is bad, so I might have a chance to start reading.

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #26 on:** May 20, 2017, 01:54:04 PM »

Quote from: Kai-san on May 19, 2017, 06:03:04 PM

My 4 copies of the German edition arrived today, sehr schön! The weather forecast for tomorrow is bad, so I might have a chance to start reading.

Oh, cool I hope you'll like it. We are always happy to get feedback from our readers. Every constructive criticism, positive or negative, is apreciated and helps us to improve.

Best regards

Marwan

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #27 on:** May 29, 2017, 01:01:12 AM »

Our Promotion video is ready!

https://vimeo.com/219305134

Kai-san · « **Reply #28 on:** June 01, 2017, 02:32:32 PM »

Is the kickstarter out yet?

gsgary · « **Reply #29 on:** June 02, 2017, 03:40:35 PM »

The mag looks similar print quality to the Leica mag if so it should be good

jharr · « **Reply #30 on:** June 02, 2017, 09:47:14 PM »

Quote from: Kai-san on June 01, 2017, 02:32:32 PM

Is the kickstarter out yet?

A quick search says no. Curious, they put the video out, but nothing about the campaign.

Maybe they are re-thinking in light of the Kodachrome release?

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #31 on:** June 03, 2017, 08:04:20 AM »

We are in the final phase!

At the moment we are waiting for Kickstarter aproval and hope to start comming Wednesday

If you wouldo like to look...We Hope to get your support!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/974395388/93156412?token=c1f67295

Best regards

David A-W · « **Reply #32 on:** June 03, 2017, 10:22:17 PM »

Very interested in this, will back you when the Kickstarter campaign launches.

I like a good magazine.

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #33 on:** June 05, 2017, 10:06:01 AM »

Quote from: David A-W on June 03, 2017, 10:22:17 PM

Very interested in this, will back you when the Kickstarter campaign launches.

I like a good magazine.

We noticed this trend in Germany. I get very often e-mails from our readers who tell me about their first impression at the newsstand. They tell me that the feel and smell of paper is so impressive!

I still remember myself...when I was a kid in the late seventies. Every Monday there was a magazine for kids and teenagers with a gimmick and comics. Every Monday I went to the bookshop with 2 Marks 50 in my hands opened the door and I still remember the smell of printed paper. The lady already knew me and had my copy alrady under the desk. I went home laid on the sofa and read it while eating a package of HARIBO gummy bears.

To be honest I am glad that I expierenced this time!

So I love magazines in print!

Francois · « **Reply #34 on:** June 05, 2017, 01:44:19 PM »

I must admit to loving the smell of paper and printing ink.

In the next town, there is a small independent bookstore where I just love going even if they don't have a great art book selection. They have some old creaking wood floors and the intoxicating smell of ink paper and wood is always present.

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #35 on:** June 06, 2017, 10:48:53 AM »

Its now officially on our website!

https://www.photoklassik.de/photoklassik-international/

astrobeck · « **Reply #36 on:** June 06, 2017, 01:15:19 PM »

I will support this.
The magazine looks beautiful.

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #37 on:** June 07, 2017, 12:37:45 AM »

Ok....It has started!

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/974395388/photoklassik-magazine-international-edition?token=c1f67295

Fingers crossed! !!

Kai-san · « **Reply #38 on:** June 07, 2017, 10:33:29 AM »

I was number 12. Looking forward to October.

jharr · « **Reply #39 on:** June 07, 2017, 03:29:50 PM »

#38. Four issues locked in (if goals are met).

Bryan · « **Reply #40 on:** June 07, 2017, 06:55:32 PM »

I'm backer #43, I hope it gets funded!

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #41 on:** June 08, 2017, 12:54:01 AM »

Thank you guys! For your support and trust!

We really belive in film and printed image. It was a hard job of negotiations to get this project organize so that it would not exceed a certain price level. We didn't want to sell our magazine for 20$ plus shipping but we also did not want to reduce the print quality. That's why our goal is so high.

We hope that we can find enough supporters who belive in film and print.

Best regards

Marwan

irv_b · « **Reply #42 on:** June 08, 2017, 08:19:02 PM »

I'm in number 55

silvergrainclassics · « **Reply #43 on:** June 10, 2017, 08:33:49 PM »

Thank you number 55....

The Royal Photographic Society has put an article about us on the website...

http://rps.org/special-interest-groups/analogue/blogs/2017/june/a-new-analogue-magazine

cs1 · « **Reply #44 on:** June 17, 2017, 07:58:04 AM »

I bought the German issue III.2017 and I liked it a lot. I'm based in Germany and I'm pretty sure that I'll be buying future editions as well. Good work!

Kai-san · « **Reply #45 on:** July 02, 2017, 06:35:38 PM »

I think all hope is lost on this kickstarter, 4 days to go and only a fraction of the goal has been pledged. That's a pity, because judging by the original magazine this could have been very good. I think I will have to subscribe to the German version and start brushing up on my rusty German.