Author Topic: New Japanese film on the market (Read 3733 times)

Kai-san · « **on:** February 23, 2016, 05:37:38 PM »

Found some interesting news for us filmwasters on Tokyo Camera Style:

http://tokyocamerastyle.com/post/139812770116/heres-some-good-news-japanese-black-and-white

Bryan · « **Reply #1 on:** February 23, 2016, 08:00:42 PM »

That's great, thanks for sharing Kai-san. I assume they are making this film and not just re-branding, they do say it's unique if Google is translating this properly.

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These films that appeared in the digital era, a smooth gradation depiction of silver salt unique Specialize, it is We want the product to use you to everyone who loves the film.

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I hope they come out with other formats like 120, 127 and 4x5.

jojonas~ · « **Reply #2 on:** February 23, 2016, 08:45:01 PM »

is it just me or does that packaging look a lot like kentmere?
either way, great news!

Francois · « **Reply #3 on:** February 23, 2016, 08:46:52 PM »

I really think it's unique. Oriental-Seagull makes some excellent photo papers, so I don't think they would have settled for some cheap emulsion for their film.
Too bad they're so hard to find around here...

Kai-san · « **Reply #4 on:** February 23, 2016, 09:26:37 PM »

It would be nice if the guys at Japan Exposures picked it up, but shipping films from Japan would not exactly make them cheap. It would be nice to test them out though.

jharr · « **Reply #5 on:** February 23, 2016, 11:10:34 PM »

The description says "Ortho Panchromatic". Not sure what that means. It would be cool if a Filmwaster who occasionally finds themselves in Asia (Bryan) would pick up a few rolls and 'distribute' to a few other N. Americans. Then we could decide whether or not to raise the cry for a distributor in the western hemisphere (maybe FPP could get something going?).

Bryan · « **Reply #6 on:** February 23, 2016, 11:35:48 PM »

Quote from: jharr on February 23, 2016, 11:10:34 PM

The description says "Ortho Panchromatic". Not sure what that means. It would be cool if a Filmwaster who occasionally finds themselves in Asia (Bryan) would pick up a few rolls and 'distribute' to a few other N. Americans. Then we could decide whether or not to raise the cry for a distributor in the western hemisphere (maybe FPP could get something going?).

I would be happy to James but I don't currently have any trips planned for that part of the world. If something comes up I'll let you know. I would be surprised if it didn't make it's way to the U.S. one way or another, maybe eBay.

Kai-san · « **Reply #7 on:** February 25, 2016, 08:36:58 PM »

Latest on the japanese film story: John Sypal has been out shopping the new film and made some interesting observations.

http://tokyocamerastyle.com/post/139962462416/stopped-by-yodobashicamera-in-shinjuku-after-work

Francois · « **Reply #8 on:** February 25, 2016, 09:13:14 PM »

Yeah, I read that this morning. If it's just rebranded Kentmere, I'm a bit disappointed.
Lets not forget that Oriental has had sponsored printers for years... and all of them excellent. Years ago, they sent me a small publication of printing tips from one of the old zone system masters...

Late Developer · « **Reply #9 on:** February 26, 2016, 12:50:29 PM »

Latest article from Filmsnotdead:

http://www.filmsnotdead.com/oriental-seagull-is-back-with-a-brand-new-film/

I'm hoping to pop over to their stall one weekend soo and see if they will be getting some in. Ironic if it is actually Ilford / Kentmere, exported to Japan, imported from Japan and sold cheaper than Ilford / Kentmere...

Francois · « **Reply #10 on:** February 26, 2016, 01:27:04 PM »

Well, according to Tokyo camera style, the boxes do say it's made in the UK...

imagesfrugales · « **Reply #11 on:** February 26, 2016, 08:57:49 PM »

"Ironic if it is actually Ilford / Kentmere, exported to Japan, imported from Japan and sold cheaper than Ilford / Kentmere...

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Everyday madness in a mad world. Btw, Kentmere films aren't sold in Germany anymore, but the clones and bothers are alive and the family seems to grow.

jojonas~ · « **Reply #12 on:** February 27, 2016, 09:10:29 PM »

I wonder if kentmere is starting to be like the equivalent of Fujifilm C200 but for BW film? I know I'm rooting for it

Late Developer · « **Reply #13 on:** February 29, 2016, 12:03:14 PM »

Well, on reflection, if Ilford has found a route to market which helps them sell more film and keep production viable, long term, then we should really be applauding and supporting them.

soeren · « **Reply #14 on:** February 29, 2016, 02:44:18 PM »

Then how about this one?
https://www.fotoimpex.de/shop/filme/washi-rollfilm-25-iso.html
Maybe it's not japanese either but at least it's on japanese paper-thin

charles binns · « **Reply #15 on:** February 29, 2016, 03:59:05 PM »

Eur 14.28 a roll. Ouch.

And it's in German so you'd need a translator to understand the pictures.

jharr · « **Reply #16 on:** February 29, 2016, 04:12:39 PM »

Quote from: soeren on February 29, 2016, 02:44:18 PM

Then how about this one?
https://www.fotoimpex.de/shop/filme/washi-rollfilm-25-iso.html
Maybe it's not japanese either but at least it's on japanese paper-thin

I wanted to try the Washi film, but I haven't seen anything that would justify the $15/roll price tag. In fact I'm not sure there could be a justification for that price (for me). I just don't spend that kind of money on 120 film.

imagesfrugales · « **Reply #17 on:** February 29, 2016, 07:59:08 PM »

Quote from: charles binns on February 29, 2016, 03:59:05 PM

And it's in German so you'd need a translator to understand the pictures.

No ;-)

It's a true ortho emulsion on semi-transparent japanese washi-paper. should be developed under red darkroom light by sight in paper developer. Speed about 25 ASA. You may read the linked pdf data sheet in english. The pictures show the paper structure. And besides the displayed pictures I've seen some other really special ones by real users. To me the price appears to be reasonable for a handmade product.

AJShepherd · « **Reply #18 on:** February 29, 2016, 08:45:15 PM »

The Washi film sounds interesting, but I was put off by the thought that it'd be a git to put on a spiral?
If you have to develop it in a darkroom that's out for me, alas.

Going back to the original topic, it's a shame it's not a brand new film, but on the other hand if it's a new income stream for Harman/Ilford then it's a good thing.

Francois · « **Reply #19 on:** February 29, 2016, 09:36:31 PM »

Washi paper is nice, especially for the larger formats. On the smaller film, the paper structure tends to be overwhelming.

soeren · « **Reply #20 on:** March 01, 2016, 09:22:15 AM »

Yeah I agree the price is High but it could be fun to play with (and new55 aint exactly cheap either

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I wonder if the hazle with the 4x5" and backing paper/-filmsheat is worth the hazle and whether either format will bring out an effect that differ from what you can do with baking paper in contact with your photografic paper and orthofilm?

thatguychad · « **Reply #21 on:** March 08, 2016, 05:44:23 AM »

Where can this film be found in Japan? I'd like to get at least one canister for my collection, maybe a 3-pack. I have coworkers that come from Japan frequently and they'd probably be willing to bring some over for me.

Francois · « **Reply #22 on:** March 08, 2016, 12:53:38 PM »

Depends on which city they go to.
I know Tokyo camera style made a nice map of the best shops in the shinjuku district.

thatguychad · « **Reply #23 on:** March 09, 2016, 02:55:39 AM »

Looks like Yodobashi camera normally stocks it, so that makes it easy.

edit: Ordered 3 rolls of each and it shipped today. He should have it by today or tomorrow, but I have to wait for him to arrive in the US at the end of the month.