Author Topic: Film - Episode 1 - History of Imaging (Read 9639 times)

damiand · « **on:** May 11, 2012, 10:52:10 PM »

Film - Episode 1 - History of Imaging

LT · « **Reply #1 on:** May 12, 2012, 09:38:05 AM »

thanks for this Damian - I'll have a watch of it later.

LT · « **Reply #2 on:** May 12, 2012, 10:12:10 AM »

Quote from: Leon on May 12, 2012, 09:38:05 AM

thanks for this Damian - I'll have a watch of it later.

I'm at 03.45 mins, and I have to admit that I am struggling. I'm afraid it's all too cool for me

At least I'm living a vibrant and amazing life.

Jack Johnson · « **Reply #3 on:** May 12, 2012, 07:47:59 PM »

I got distracted by the creator's website (http://framednetwork.com/) and my audio channel was otherwise preoccupied with Sherlock Season 1 Episode 1.

So much media, so little attention span.

Francois · « **Reply #4 on:** May 12, 2012, 09:02:01 PM »

Does that mean we're actually cool?

Still, I found it pretty nice and I now know what to use if I decide to do some tintypes

sapata · « **Reply #5 on:** May 12, 2012, 10:45:18 PM »

Sorry but I couldn't watch it... I know we all need a bit of self-promotion but those first 4 minutes were like an overdose.

charles binns · « **Reply #6 on:** May 12, 2012, 11:12:06 PM »

I did stick it out. Hell's teeth, those three are annoying. But at least I now know "I'm not alone" You have to wait right to the end of the video for that particular gem.

damiand · « **Reply #7 on:** May 12, 2012, 11:14:39 PM »

I think its not actually for people who shooting film because we know more or less ( me less

) what we are doing and what this is about. As You may see its sponsor by fuji and I am thinking they just want to get new market rich hipsters with money. I am afraid that if films will be cost more and more only they will afford to buy them

.

Randy B · « **Reply #8 on:** May 12, 2012, 11:25:22 PM »

Wow, I couldn't get through the first 3 minutes either. It's like watching and MTV realiuty show or something, completely unbearable.

It anyone is strong enough to watch the whole thing, I'm curious if theres anything good in the middle of it.

Jack Johnson · « **Reply #9 on:** May 12, 2012, 11:25:33 PM »

Quote from: damiand on May 12, 2012, 11:14:39 PM

As You may see its sponsor by fuji and I am thinking they just want to get new market rich hipsters with money.

Though I'm an increasingly middle-aged man of increasing girth, I intermittently get accused of being a hipster by my friends just because of my film affliction. But I'm instantly outed as a simple film geek (in every sense) as soon as any true hipster (or photographer) comes within five yards.

I have been known to eat the odd vegetarian sandwich and fondle Moleskine, though. Maybe I'm a hipster in a fat guy suit.

Francois · « **Reply #10 on:** May 13, 2012, 05:08:56 PM »

Quote from: Randy B on May 12, 2012, 11:25:22 PM

It anyone is strong enough to watch the whole thing, I'm curious if theres anything good in the middle of it.

I watched it out of boredom... after over 40 minutes, I was even more bored! And I keep asking me the same questions over and over... like does everyone in Utah live in McMansions? Why must they have such poor taste in decoration? How the heck did their teacher friend get a position, he's not nearly old enough to do so? A garage not filled with stuff... something seriously wrong there? What's up with the confession booth?

Here's a resume of it all:
Begining: self promotion and explanation of the series.
Middle: ooh! and aah! over vintage daguerrotypes and tintypes.
End: ooh and aah over their own portrait on wet plate colloidon done on black trophy aluminum.

That's pretty much it. They also keep saying how much they love film all along.

LT · « **Reply #11 on:** May 13, 2012, 05:22:37 PM »

yes - a fair précis I would say Francois

Only thing to add is a sprinkling of unconvincing platitudes about self actualisation through film.

This is not to say that we are ungrateful for you posting Damian! It's just fun to poke holes in stuff like this. I'd prefer to watch this than some webinar on photoshop etc.

charles binns · « **Reply #12 on:** May 13, 2012, 05:37:44 PM »

Francois, you forgot the irritating "group hugs".

sapata · « **Reply #13 on:** May 13, 2012, 07:49:21 PM »

Hold on!! That was only episode 1!!...

Which means that episode 2 might be somewhere on world wide web

we've got to find it...

Francois · « **Reply #14 on:** May 13, 2012, 09:51:11 PM »

Maybe they will invent something a sequel to the group hug thing

damiand · « **Reply #15 on:** May 13, 2012, 11:51:01 PM »

Jack Johnson: "I think its not actually for people who shooting film because we know more or less ( me less

) what we are doing and what this is about. " - I think that You belong to people who already know what to do with film.

Leon : honestly i like it i is so positive . I am thinking its market to people who dont have no idea about photography basics . ok to much talking lets group hug

Ed Wenn · « **Reply #16 on:** May 14, 2012, 11:42:34 AM »

Wow! I'm absolutely not going to bother watching this...I'd rather picture it in my mind based on your comments which I enjoyed very much...esp the group hug mention, Francois' ingrained suspicion of anyone who's garage isn't full of junk and Jonas' desire to hunt down episode two.

This all made me smile a lot.

Damian: Thanks for posting and also for not getting annoyed by the comments. Glad to see you took it in the correct spirit.

Jack Johnson · « **Reply #17 on:** May 15, 2012, 07:05:04 AM »

So, I finally watched it all the way through and here's what I took away:

Very nice production quality
Everyone's excitement over the tintypes was infectious
Smart idea using the Pyrex dishes as developing trays
There's not enough film-oriented television, so I'm going to keep watching

Francois · « **Reply #18 on:** May 15, 2012, 02:30:42 PM »

I've subscribed to their youtube channel... we'll see how things evolve.

Jeff.Glass · « **Reply #19 on:** May 15, 2012, 05:25:22 PM »

Thanks Francois and Jack Johnson and others for summarizing so I don't have to watch the hipster self-lovin drivel! Film promotion is good so I hope this finds and audience it can speak to. Obviously, I and some of you are not that audience...

mickld · « **Reply #20 on:** May 15, 2012, 10:29:01 PM »

I was expecting this to be a lot worse than it turned out to be! Skip the first 3-4 mins and the last few minutes, and (group hugs aside) it was quite watchable - no worse than a lot of youtube photography posts. Not a patch on the filmwasters videos of course!

I've actually seen the two women in the show before on some other I-love-film video, but I can't quite place where it was. They were making a living shooting weddings with colour film using Mamiya 645s.

Alan · « **Reply #21 on:** May 16, 2012, 10:15:13 PM »

nah - those presenters are V. annoying.

there are interesting sections but yea they are interrupted but
those 3

with too much talking about nothing.

Volker · « **Reply #22 on:** May 20, 2012, 01:11:29 PM »

fyi only

episode 2 is online.

Film - Episode 2: Lightwalk

charles binns · « **Reply #23 on:** May 20, 2012, 07:45:46 PM »

Of the 39 minutes about 6 minutes was useful & interesting. The rest was just nonsensical babbling, group hugs, people saying "Orsum!!" etc., etc.

calbisu · « **Reply #24 on:** May 20, 2012, 08:05:02 PM »

Ok, do not tell anybody but I liked the video, wait! I actually enjoyed it!! The video was well done and some of the shots were more than just OK, might not be my style but liked them. And hey! people seemed to enjoy it. I will try to remember couple of techniques like the ¨barn dor¨ or ¨angel lightning¨

fox · « **Reply #25 on:** May 27, 2012, 06:37:09 AM »

The three presenters are pretty annoying, especially Tanya who instigates all of the sickening group hugging.
I suppose it should not be a surprise that everything is "ossum", but it too gets on the nerves.

The history guy in episode one nicely explained the potted history of the medium, though his explanation of 35mm was a bit mangled.

The production is pretty good though, and it's not everyday something like this is available to watch. Their enthusiasm is never in doubt, though it seems a bit forced at times.

For those of you who watched the first couple of minutes, isn't that what the slider at the bottom of the screen is for? Just move it along to the more informative bits.

Overall it's worth a look, but not rocket science.

Late Developer · « **Reply #26 on:** May 27, 2012, 09:14:43 AM »

I didn't watch episode 1 and got to 07:08 on the timer (episode 2) and had to turn it off. It's probably informative to some extent, the production values are good but the presenters are all so "up themselves" I couldn't face any more without the distraction of stabbing myself in the face with a fork.

Francois · « **Reply #27 on:** May 27, 2012, 04:44:29 PM »

I think it has to be something related to being a young commercial photographer...
Thinking about it, they remind me of my cousin. She got a bachelor's in photography and does commercial work. The few times I met her, I was really stunned by her slightly megalomaniac personality. But that being said, she still is a very nice person.

Late Developer · « **Reply #28 on:** May 28, 2012, 08:59:00 AM »

Francois, I'm sure all the people on the video are, genuinely, very nice indeed. However, at my age, I prefer instructional videos / programes to be dour affairs involving people with beards (even the women) and tweed jackets with leather elbow patches. A bit like 1970s BBC2 "Open University" programmes.

charles binns · « **Reply #29 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:29:05 AM »

Quote from: Late Developer on May 28, 2012, 08:59:00 AM

Francois, I'm sure all the people on the video are, genuinely, very nice indeed. However, at my age, I prefer instructional videos / programes to be dour affairs involving people with beards (even the women) and tweed jackets with leather elbow patches. A bit like 1970s BBC2 "Open University" programmes.

I concur. preferably also smoking a pipe and wearing an expression on their face that mixes deep rooted unhappiness, contempt for their audience and anger at the director who's clearly (in the presenter's eyes) a complete buffoon.

Seriously though. What's wrong with abit of gravitas? If I wanted hare brained antics I'd watch EU leaders trying to rescue the Euro, or the Leveson Inquiry.

Jack Johnson · « **Reply #30 on:** May 28, 2012, 09:33:13 AM »

Quote from: charles binns on May 28, 2012, 09:29:05 AM

I concur. preferably also smoking a pipe and wearing an expression on their face that mixes deep rooted unhappiness, contempt for their audience and anger at the director who's clearly (in the presenter's eyes) a complete buffoon.

Were we not watching the same show?

LT · « **Reply #31 on:** May 29, 2012, 10:20:09 AM »

Why, oh why is Ryan Muirhead wearing a nightie and an epilepsy head protector? This gets better and better!

And ... episodes 2 and 3 have nothing to do with film! they are about shooting models in natural light.

brilliant.

Film - Episode 3: "Basic" Shoot

fox · « **Reply #32 on:** May 29, 2012, 11:15:47 PM »

It's not getting any better. Nothing to do with film as such.

How the hell did they end up with three presenters so annoying? That's either incredibly unlucky or incredibly stupid. I suspect the latter

Jon Butler · « **Reply #33 on:** May 30, 2012, 03:28:09 AM »

Just watched episode 1 as I can't sleep it's 03:15, really annoying trio but then I do find most
people annoying. While looking at it I spent most of the time uttering obscenities at it.
J.

LT · « **Reply #34 on:** May 30, 2012, 09:03:50 AM »

Quote from: JON BUTLER on May 30, 2012, 03:28:09 AM

Just watched episode 1 as I can't sleep it's 03:15, really annoying trio but then I do find most
people annoying. While looking at it I spent most of the time uttering obscenities at it.
J.

Jon, that is by far the funniest post to a thread that I have ever read on Filmwasters.

I can see you now seething mumbling and swearing art your iPad screen. Brilliant.

Francois · « **Reply #35 on:** June 29, 2012, 11:19:12 PM »

Just bringing an old thread back to life to let you know that I've just watched Episode 8 of the series and was pretty impressed. They visited a pro lab (which is also their sponsor) and showed all the steps required to make a print. From the Dip & Dunk machines to the scanning, darkroom printing and so on. Only one group hug at the end so you're safe for over 90% of the show

I never thought a pro lab would do so much to get your prints out... something which my local labs don't even remotely do!

Here's the clip
Film Episode 8: "Richard Photo Lab"

fox · « **Reply #36 on:** June 30, 2012, 07:54:56 AM »

Thanks for reviving this thread. I had wondered what had happened since episode 4. Now I've caught up. Decent episode or two including the latest one

I'm fortunate to have a lab albeit small, only a few minutes away. http://www.the-darkroom.co.uk/

I'm still wondering why Tia is a part of this team. What does she do other than looking like Robert Plant? Also, is Ryan a Tranny? He's dressed either in lady wear or in make up.

charles binns · « **Reply #37 on:** June 30, 2012, 11:31:53 AM »

Orsum!!!

To be honest I gave up at the beginning of episode 3 when the photographer appeared wearing a nightie and with a teddy bear on his head. Not sure I could cope watching another.

Abdul Hye · « **Reply #38 on:** June 30, 2012, 02:46:38 PM »

I subscribe to it. Its ok, flamboyant people that are enthusiastic about film. I’d rather spend a few moments in their company than some of the miserable film photographers around. Over 1100 views in 24 hours. Great stuff.

fox · « **Reply #39 on:** June 30, 2012, 07:33:31 PM »

I agree with you Abdul, while the presenters are extremely annoying, their enthusiasm is not in question. There are too many here who throw the baby out with the bath water. I wonder what they are doing instead with the little time they are not watching this series.

I imagine you watch it while processing a film or three.

LT · « **Reply #40 on:** July 02, 2012, 08:58:57 AM »

I think we are just being a bit British about it all ...

But I quite like that attitude. Moaning old gits. It's brilliantly funny.

I'm not sure that what we are seeing here is flamboyance though. Just ridiculousness. But, as you say, their enthusiasm cant be questioned.

Fox, your Tiabert Plant comment is genius. I cant see her without hearing her screaching through the Immigrant Song now ...

I have to say, on the desert shoot episode, they make some very strong pictures. Not sure that can be said for the show where they had to all take pictures of the tree, they were mostly poor.

Was the Desert shoot sponsored by Avon or something? It seemed that everyone person either on or off screen had to be caked in make-up. There must be some interesting back stories going on here.

Either way, the Utubes are probably richer for having this show in them. It's certainly given us lots to say

Francois · « **Reply #41 on:** July 02, 2012, 02:29:55 PM »

I must admit that the makeup thing is something people who don't work in the modeling/advertisement world don't know about.
Back in university, there was a girl who was paying for her studies by doing professional modeling and photo shoots. She often (especially during exam time) would come to class with very heavy makeup on. Now this was before the days of Digital capture (1996 or 1997). For publications, they needed people with very smooth skin to minimize photoshop work which was dreadfully expensive. So, heavy makeup it was. Same thing for guys. And the trend keeps on going with everything now being shot in high resolution.

ChristineHickey · « **Reply #42 on:** July 02, 2012, 06:12:59 PM »

Is it corny?
Yes.

Is it lacking in film info?
Yes.

Regardless, I find it mildly entertaining. If you can ignore the cheese, its not all that bad, though I do wish they would talk more about film photography rather than just only shooting film.

I thought the desert shoot episode was excellent! I particularly loved the images they produced and I really liked getting the glimpse into Tanja's creative process of using story boards over a period of time to get the image strongly in her head before transferring it to film. I like the tour of RPL too. It was interesting seeing what their hybrid workflow is like.

That's just me and my 2 cents. I generally will be happy with anything or anyone that supports film.

Christine

charles binns · « **Reply #43 on:** July 02, 2012, 08:00:14 PM »

These films really have that marmite factor, and whilst I love marmite I can't say the same about the three presenters. Call me an old fashioned, miserable, stick in the mud old git but I like it when people speak in plain English without behaving like they've just inhaled 20 litres of nitrous oxide.