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Caffenol - The Holy Grail?
« on: January 10, 2011, 10:25:22 AM »
Developing in coffee?  Probably not everyone's "cup of tea".

For some time now I have been exploring the properties of coffee as a film developer. First of all a few facts about the brew.

1. Caffenol does increase film speed (testing will reveal your personal film speed).

2. Caffenol does result in finer grain (varies from film to film).

3. Caffenol, in it's basic formula, does result in overall fog (which does not necessarily degrade printing/scanning quality and can be controlled with potassium bromide).

4. Caffenol smell can be off-putting to some (I am a self confessed coffee junkie so no problem for me).

My first tests last year centered around Caffenol-C-M  -  the basic starting point. I looked for a subject with great contrast and a wide tonal range.

The cement pipe was photographed in bright midday sunlight. The shadows were placed on Zone III and the highlights, which had to display detail, fell one third of a stop above Zone VII.  IMO, a real test for any film/developer combination!

Although the resulting negative displayed slight overall fog, it scanned beautifully and would probably print well on Grade 2-3 paper.

Image captured with Rollei SL66 and 80mm lens. Fuji Acros film.

I have since standardised on Caffenol -C-L and will post some results soon.

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Lawrie.
« Last Edit: January 10, 2011, 01:41:50 PM by Lawrie »

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Re: Caffenol - The Holy Grail?
« Reply #1 on: January 10, 2011, 10:33:36 AM »
Hi Lawrie, I've not tried Caffenol myself but from the sample you've shown there it looks good!

I came across this at the weekend, http://caffenol.blogspot.com/, which might be of interest if you don't know of it.

I'd be interested to see some more.

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Re: Caffenol - The Holy Grail?
« Reply #2 on: January 10, 2011, 11:17:26 AM »
Lawrie - there are quite a few coffee developer users here, so I expect you'll be able to trade info with them.

my preference has always been for simple metol devs like d-23 for fine control and catechol when I need some compensation. But one man's pyrocat is another's rodinal etc.  horses for courses probably.   
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Re: Caffenol - The Holy Grail?
« Reply #3 on: January 10, 2011, 02:57:58 PM »
looks nice lawrie! I've got some some rolls developed that I need to scan. very pleased with the results. just remember to use a fresh mix! reusing worked but it wasn't pretty, atleast for me.. :P

that blog is a good resource but I have still to find some potassium bromide around here..
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Re: Caffenol - The Holy Grail?
« Reply #4 on: January 10, 2011, 03:02:04 PM »
Hi Lawrie,

good to see you using the Caffenol-C process.

I use it myself, similar blent to the M variant and I get quite good results with the
odd unexpected surprises due to mainly not rinsing properly before fixing.


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Re: Caffenol - The Holy Grail?
« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2011, 09:05:16 PM »
Hi Lawrie, for me caffenol is the holy grail indeed.
I am far from mastering it, but since i dont have acess to traditional developers. Caffenol is all i have !

I would love to your results as well :)


that blog is a good resource but I have still to find some potassium bromide around here..


I found everything i needed on a medical supplies shop. Potassium bromide is also a controlled medicine for dogs, and people in some countries. So that might be why its hard for you to find it.

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Re: Caffenol - The Holy Grail?
« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2011, 12:05:32 PM »
Lino - glad to hear that you are using caffenol (Hope you are enjoying it as well!)

Although my initial tests were with off-the-shelf washing soda, which gave great results, I switched to chemically pure Anhydrous Sodium Carbonate (dirt cheap and easily obtained) to ensure long term consistency and repeatability. I am somewhat of a stickler for accuracy when it comes to developing (and chemical mixing in particular).

I am extremely happy with my results and will be concentrating on this developer in the forseeable future.

I will be posting a few caffenol images this weekend!

Regards,

Lawrie.
« Last Edit: January 16, 2011, 12:09:59 PM by Lawrie »

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Re: Caffenol - The Holy Grail?
« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2011, 12:25:59 PM »
Come on then, let's have some recipes!  ;D

I'm all for using chemicals which do as little environmental harm as possible.  (which is why I currently use highly diluted HC-110)

And being a bit of a coffee fan too....
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Re: Caffenol - The Holy Grail?
« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2011, 01:04:50 PM »
For a mine of information go to http://caffenol.blogspot.com/

Great reading and lots of inspiration!!!!

Regards,

Lawrie.

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Re: Caffenol - The Holy Grail?
« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2011, 01:41:12 PM »
What's the advantage of potassium bromide then?

Looks like the jury's split!

Would Caffenol work for a fast-ish film (Tri-x)?

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Re: Caffenol - The Holy Grail?
« Reply #10 on: January 20, 2011, 04:02:55 AM »
What's the advantage of potassium bromide then?

Looks like the jury's split!

Would Caffenol work for a fast-ish film (Tri-x)?


I never tried it, but on the caffenol blog it says that caffenol-c formula is not the best for fast film.
But the potassium bromide compensates for that.
Again, i have never tried it so, i cant say from experience.