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my first goop
« on: January 24, 2008, 06:38:59 AM »
i was reading about goop and decided to give it a try myself.  the top image below is when i let photoshop do autocontrast, the bottom shot is what i did with adjusting the levels. i had to adjust it quite a bit, or more than i'd like to. part of me feels like it was cheating or something(how much photoshop is too much?), but i suppose if i had access to a colour dark room i would have made the same adjustments there to a certain degree anyway.  thoughts?

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Re: my first goop
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2008, 10:52:31 AM »
Some films produce a recoverable goop. Suspect this was not Type-667? Type-667 is my best goop peel-apart. Some get good goop from color. But, not me. I must re-read Sean's goop story, but one item that effects your goop is how it is protected after peeling. Bright sun onto the goop effects it, sometimes solarizing, other times fading...

This is about as far as I would process your goop myself.



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Re: my first goop
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2008, 02:53:18 PM »
thanks for the input skorj. this was 669 film, so far the only peel apart film i've worked with, but then i don't have any cameras that use peel apart film currently, just the slide printer. i'm going to have to think some more on how far i want to adjust when doing this.

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Re: my first goop
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2008, 03:37:56 PM »
yeah i could never quite figure out exactly what causes the solarization. seems completely random. when i just used my square shooter, i treated every goop the same. i basically had to carry them around and set them on the ground while i was shooting to dry. and some solarized and some didn't. i think it has more to do with the amount of dark and light in your image...and the borders bewteen dark and light. less contrast or darker areas seems to produce more solarization.
669 and 87 defnly work the best. 669 gives a faint image, much stronger while it's still wet... wish i could think of a way to preserve it. never get anything from fuji film. the last example is pretty interesting...it's type 47 roll film. with type 667/87, if you wash it, the image just sloughs off...type 47, the image is actually on the paper, so you can wash off the goop and you have an actual paper negative.
yours works well, as is... has a nice summery memories feel to it.

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Re: my first goop
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2008, 03:50:16 PM »
...type 47, the image is actually on the paper, so you can wash off the goop and you have an actual paper negative.

this is something i've been wondering for awhile, how exactly do the polaroid negatives work? i seem to recall reading somewhere that they required another step, some sort of chemistry to fully be a negative. so what's the story?

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Re: my first goop
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2008, 05:20:06 PM »
i had to adjust it quite a bit, or more than i'd like to. part of me feels like it was cheating or something(how much photoshop is too much?), but i suppose if i had access to a colour dark room i would have made the same adjustments there to a certain degree anyway.  thoughts?

Personally, I feel that has to be an individual decision... it's up to you as far as what aesthetic you are going for, what you want to achieve, and how you will do it.

I have a friend who when I tell him about all the "neat" filmy or alt-process stuff I've been doing, he simply relies: "yeah, well you could have done the same thing in photoshop in about five minutes."

A little frustrating, though admittedly at least partially true. So, in the end you have to ask yourself, are you going for an end result, or do you enjoy the journey of finding and creating photos? For me, I love shooting film. I love the physical feel of it, I love the control I have with it, I love the discovery. But, why stop there... if there is a way to make that image I've discovered on film a little better using new technologies, why not? It's all part of the artistic vision. If you want something to look a certain way, and a bit of photoshop will help get it there, well I'd say go for it. It's just another tool under the belt- that if used correctly can be incredibly useful. Otherwise, why not just hang the goop up as-is without scanning? If you are going to introduce a digital element into the process, why not use it to it's full advantage...

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Re: my first goop
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2008, 06:11:47 PM »
Yeah, but Photo Shop doesn't have that "smell" of accomplishment nor the telltale signs under the fingernails that goop gives.   :)

Viva Goop!





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Re: my first goop
« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2008, 10:26:53 AM »
Cold (freezing) day. Expired Type-667. Low contrasty goop:



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Re: my first goop
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2008, 04:51:38 PM »
Some wonderful goop examples here. This is one from Type 53 b&w film. It solarized, and scanning it in RGB provided the blue cast to the image.



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Re: my first goop
« Reply #9 on: January 25, 2008, 05:57:29 PM »
I have only tried the goop with Fuji FP-3000B peel apart BW film and I love it. seems to work really well with an over exposed shot.

here are some shots.


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Re: my first goop
« Reply #10 on: January 25, 2008, 06:12:59 PM »
i've been wanting to try the fuji 3000. how does it compare to 667?
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Re: my first goop
« Reply #11 on: January 25, 2008, 06:19:56 PM »
i've been wanting to try the fuji 3000. how does it compare to 667?


I haven't tried 667 for goop, but to be honest I don't know if I would after using the fuji; fast development great contrast nice black point...

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Re: my first goop
« Reply #12 on: January 28, 2008, 09:58:44 PM »
Another great thread. Thanks everyone.

BTW, I love the look of that Fujifilm 3000...will be trying that out ASAP.