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Being a participant in your photographic work
« on: December 23, 2012, 04:57:48 PM »
A friend of mine, after seeing my pics from Sosua (in the Photo Essays section here), shared with me some links to the work and interviews of Antoine D’Agata.  I had seen some of his work but didn’t know anything about him.  I like this quote:

"I do think of photography as a perfectly legitimate artistic language, but I believe it is underused or misused most of the time. The world is not made out of what we see but from what we do. Photographers who ignore this state of things—and today, as in the past, most of them do—reduce photography to its capacity for recording reality. They don’t take responsibility for their position while looking at the world and end up assuming voyeuristic, sociological or aesthetic stands. Contrary to writing or painting, you have to confront reality while photographing. The only decent way to do it is to make the best out of your own existence. From a moral point of view, you have to invent your own life, against fear and ignorance, and through action. Intelligence and beauty don’t compensate for passivity. The only way to keep one’s dignity is to confront human condition and social context through direct action. It is a difficult balance one has to keep between the creation of situations to go through and the development of a narrative technique to share one’s perspective. In this process, life overcomes art at some point, and art perverts life. By deliberately living in this constant tension, I expect to go through existence without having to give up lucidity or experience."

Truth be told, I don't really like much of his drug-fueled work with prostitutes but very much like much of his other B&W work.  Anyway, I really like this quote, what it says about questioning the assumed detachment between photographer and subject, about questioning the notion of objective reality.  I suppose Nan Goldin is the most well-known example of this approach. 

But while I strive for intimacy in my photographs, which derives from an emotional connection that gets established whether over years or a brief moment, the Nan Goldin approach has never suited me.  But now I'm thinking of taking it a step further, without fear of crossing over this unstated and unquestioned boundary between photographer and subject.  I'm not sure exactly how I will do that, or what I will get, but it's an interesting idea, and interesting to read someone giving photographers permission, even urging them, to reject a rather deeply entrenched characteristic of most photography.


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Re: Being a participant in your photographic work
« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2012, 05:14:11 PM »
I have always been an admirer of D'Agata's. His work can be, well, challenging at times.  :o

Here is a link to his Magnum page where a large selection of his work can be found. http://bit.ly/SFd9fn

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Re: Being a participant in your photographic work
« Reply #2 on: December 24, 2012, 09:26:07 AM »
Very tricky line to walk. Walk to close to the fire and you risk getting burned. Walk too far from it and you miss the heat and the emotion. Straddle the line and are you much more than a voyeur / social commentator?

The work is interesting and Sosua is a place I visited on holiday in 1997 (without even spotting a hint of any of this type of activity). However, I would remain an "observer" as I'd struggle to get close enough to really understand.
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Re: Being a participant in your photographic work
« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2012, 11:38:00 AM »
D'Agata may be consistent and thorough in how he chooses to work, but I don't buy any argument that generalises about other creatives, whether people or processes.  Yes, you have to invent your own life, but to suggest that the world is made only of what we do strikes me as self-serving.  In this quote he seems to attack anyone, ("they") who doesn't follow his personal prescriptions.  I think what he does is valid, but it's as limited as any other specialist work.  I'd put money on it that he will change over time.

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Re: Being a participant in your photographic work
« Reply #4 on: December 24, 2012, 12:08:18 PM »
I think the idea D'Agata's expressing can be found in a variety of work the more I have thought about it.  Larry Sultan and many others who document members of their family but are anything but an objective observer or voyeur or sociologist.  I think it's most pointedly a critique of much of social documentary work. 

And it certainly is just one approach, and I think he's being purposefully provocative and overly assertive in trying to go against a strong tradition in social documentary.

I don't know how much these two threads overlap, but when I went to Sosua to do this project, I went with the idea that it would not be in the typical vein of a lot of social documentary that portrays its subjects as victims of one kind or another.  Denise Brennan's book on Sosua set the framework in that her ethnography of the sex workers there showed a world very much structured upon inequity but also one where the women exerted much agency and control over their lives and their bodies.  They are anything but helpless victims, and when you stop to view your subjects as such it becomes much easier to relate to them as equals and other barriers begin to fall, so the option of inserting yourself into the telling of the story becomes not only possible but kind of necessary.  I mean, my access to my subjects was through becoming their customer.  To feign objective detachment would be a strange kind of lie.