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charles binns

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Best Film for b&w protrait
« on: January 25, 2012, 01:05:11 PM »
I am taking a series of formal protraits of my father and stepmother for his 80th birthday Using my Hasselblad.

Does anyone have any recomendations for film to use?  Also soemone once told me that a green filter bought out skin tones nicely but I have since read that a green filter makes the skin look weather beaten, which is not a look my step mother will appreciate.

Can anyone recommend what filter I should use?

Thanks.

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Re: Best Film for b&w protrait
« Reply #1 on: January 25, 2012, 01:24:18 PM »
Any film is good! I have seen great portraits on a wide range of films and ratings. I'd suggest the slower films 100-125 - FP4, Delta 100 or Acros 100 will all do a fine job. I have heard yellow/green filters to be good for skin - I tend to use yellow or none at all. Just keep away from harsh light if you are being sensitive to your step-mothers feelings!

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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2012, 02:04:34 PM »
If I was using natural light by a window, I'd use XP2 Super 400 or one of the other C41 processable films as they have lovely fine grain and superb detail. I saw some studio lit portraits shot on Fuji Acros 100 which were awesome, so I'd use that if there was sufficient light. Shooting Kodak Portra 160 (or 400) in colour and then doing a mono conversion would give you options.

I'd avoid filters altogether, these days and have a play in Photoshop if you're printing on an inkjet. However, if you have an old UV / Daylight filter that you're prepared to "ruin" you could smear a tiny dab of Vaseline / petroleum jelly onto it. If used sparingly, you'll keep all the detail and sharpness but you'll get a lovely soft "glow" which will smooth out a lot of lines, wrinkles, thread veins etc. Alternatively, I used to use a pair of sheer neutral coloured ladies tights, stretched over the lens, to create a soft focus effect.

Have fun, experiment...... ;)
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Re: Best Film for b&w protrait
« Reply #3 on: January 25, 2012, 02:25:32 PM »
I used to use a pair of sheer neutral coloured ladies tights, stretched over the lens, to create a soft focus effect.

Is that why Lara always wears trousers Paul... cos you've nicked all her hosiery!?... ;D
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« Reply #4 on: January 25, 2012, 02:37:49 PM »
Or you could also use an orange filter. It will hide many skin defects. Red is the best at that but I don't think you want your dad to have Victorian White featureless skin...
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2012, 04:15:14 PM »
If you don't have much time before taking these portraits, I think I would stick with whatever film/developer combo you've had success with in the past. Sounds like too unique an opportunity to risk experimenting on. Unless you have two cameras to switch between.

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« Reply #6 on: January 25, 2012, 06:23:30 PM »
All the advice above is excellent.
I would also add that I would use a film I had some experience shooting, developing and printing with, unless you've got time to test the new film with your camera see how the hassy renders pictures on that particular film. I've had surprises (looking at you t-max !). Although it's quite safe to assume that it's rather improbable to completely ruin a film, as B&W has a forgiving latitude. I think it might be more dangerous using a camera you've never used before for such an important shoot, than switching film brands.

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« Reply #7 on: January 25, 2012, 07:50:32 PM »
I used to use a pair of sheer neutral coloured ladies tights, stretched over the lens, to create a soft focus effect.

Is that why Lara always wears trousers Paul... cos you've nicked all her hosiery!?... ;D

Damn, I've been outed....!! ;)

Actually, I was given the advice from a pro wedding photographer back in the early 80s. Lara would probably have a fit if she found me carrying a pair of sheer tights in my camera bag. :o
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Re: Best Film for b&w protrait
« Reply #8 on: January 25, 2012, 07:53:30 PM »
tri-x didnt work too bad considering i overexposed by 2 stops...



...but i would suggest going slow.. maybe pan f 50. i personally knows someone who shoots it for portraits and it comes out nice.


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Re: Best Film for b&w protrait
« Reply #9 on: February 20, 2012, 08:42:36 PM »
These are the results of the shoot of my father & stepmother for his 80th.  I decided in the end to shoot with FP4 and HP5 in the end - the final three selected ended up being the shots taken with HP5.  I don't have a flash or lights  so had to use available light which wasn't great on the day (took some PanF with me but couldn't use it).

I now need to print them off and would be grateful if anyone could recommend a decent place I can send these images for printing.  In the UK, preferably London, please.


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Re: Best Film for b&w protrait
« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2012, 08:51:10 PM »
Charles, your family is lovely!
I can't offer any help for printing, but your Dad will love the portraits!
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Re: Best Film for b&w protrait
« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2012, 08:59:13 PM »
Astrobeck, thank you very much!  I sent the jpgs to my father tonight and I know he'll like 'em.  I just need to produce the finished article now.  I'm pleased with them though -  especially the individual portraits.

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2012, 09:31:10 PM »
http://www.fourcornersfilm.co.uk/labyrinth-photographic

I can’t really recommend them as I’ve not used them but I have seen work printed by them. Based in East London. They run printing courses there as well. I did an induction there but decided to go somewhere cheaper.

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Re: Best Film for b&w protrait
« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2012, 09:48:14 PM »
Lovely set of portraits

How about http://www.ilfordlab.com/

or our very own leon

http://leontaylor-photo.co.uk/services.html 

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Re: Best Film for b&w protrait
« Reply #14 on: February 20, 2012, 10:31:04 PM »
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Lara would probably have a fit if she found me carrying a pair of sheer tights in my camera bag. Shocked

I don't know, Paul. It's always handy to have a pair for that impromptu bank job  ;D

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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2012, 11:21:04 PM »
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Lara would probably have a fit if she found me carrying a pair of sheer tights in my camera bag. Shocked

I don't know, Paul. It's always handy to have a pair for that impromptu bank job  ;D

Ain't that the truth...!! Lara must think I'm made of half bricks  :D
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Re: Best Film for b&w protrait
« Reply #16 on: February 21, 2012, 07:40:47 PM »
Lovely set of portraits

How about http://www.ilfordlab.com/



The thing is these images are slightly toned and if I send them to Ilford they would lose that.  Can anyone suggest a colour printer.

I might fancy a hand print of my father's portrait for myself though.

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Re: Best Film for b&w protrait
« Reply #17 on: February 21, 2012, 09:10:08 PM »
I love those portraits. They are great! Very warm and loving, they look very relaxed in front of you taking the pictures.

There is nothing more exciting than portratits, as the important part is too find that right moment, the models will be happy with. Well done.