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Methods for filing and archiving negs????
« on: October 16, 2006, 05:40:30 PM »
I'm curious about what the consensus might be here on the best way to store and archive negs?

And, also how many filmwasters are making contact sheets to file or store with their negs??



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Re: Methods for filing and archiving negs????
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2006, 09:19:20 PM »
I use Kenro clear storage sheets.

Contact sheets would be useful, but for me it's just another thing to print and store. Plus looking at negs fresh after several weeks, months, or even years reveals things I missed when I last looked at them  ;D

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Re: Methods for filing and archiving negs????
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2006, 10:27:26 PM »
Lever arch files full of negs in Kenro (and other) bags. No to contact sheets. The whole thing's an ongoing battle. I have them organised by year (1 lever arch file for 35mm and one for MF for each year), but then I also have a file for 'working negs' - i.e. those that I haven't scanned properly (or at all) yet. Needless to say, the working file has more stuff in it than most of the other ones.

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Re: Methods for filing and archiving negs????
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2006, 10:51:45 PM »
Aside from the archival thing, for me, the most important thing is finding the images after they're processed. I struggled with dozens of methods and settled on one that just works for me.

I store the negatives in PrintFile plastic sleeves most of the time. What I like about them is that you can make contact prints through the sleeves (I put the paper on the baseboard, sleeve on top, covered by a sheet of glass and expose the whole thing).

On an envelope and on the contact sheet, I write a serial number (before contact printing... so the number is visible on the contact print)

Then, the contact print goes in a folder on the shelf. The negatives go in the envelope in a box (they could also be hanging in a file cabinet if you have lots).

But the secret to my sorting system is in the serial number. I used to go 1, 2, 3... then I started doing slide... and color negative... and the system got all screwed-up, overly complicated, just a big mess (especially when I accidentally skipped numbers and added letters to make it harder).

I thought about it for a few days and came up with the following scheme:
for right now, the number might read something like 2006-10-16-01
Year-Month-Day-Film number processed on this day.

The number of the film processed is usually quite small and easy to track (usually 01 or 02). I always put the leading zeros as it would change the way the serial numbers work (2006101601 is not equal to 200610161)

The contact sheets get inserted in the folder in order. New pictures can never have a serial smaller than their predecessor (unless I invent a time machine :) ) and I don't have to remember a thing. I don't even have to check where I'm at in the system! :) If I have to take notes when printing a photo, I just add the frame number to the sequence. No matter what I shoot, I use the same system. When I shoot color film, I either ask for an index print or make one myself.

If I'm looking for a subject in particular, I just flip through the prints. It's easy, manageable and it works. Storing the contact prints with the negatives just didn't work for me... it's too hard to find things (which was very surprising to me).
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Re: Methods for filing and archiving negs????
« Reply #4 on: October 17, 2006, 08:47:31 AM »
I use lever arch files and the translucent type kenro files - the clear plastic ones ALWAYS WITHOUT FAIL scratch my negs as I slide them in and out.  I very rarely contact/ index these days for the same reason as Tony - just more stuff to file and get in the way. Every year or so, I go through all my negs and cull all the ones that I never use or havent got a decent print out of, so that way the archive keeps to a minimum.
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Re: Methods for filing and archiving negs????
« Reply #5 on: October 17, 2006, 10:48:04 PM »
Leon, I'm interested that you throw away negs. Would never have thought that of you. You're obviously a hard man deep inside all the friendly, fluffy exterior.

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Re: Methods for filing and archiving negs????
« Reply #6 on: October 18, 2006, 03:27:24 PM »
I threw away negs once... and still regret it as some noteworthy stuff got accidentally thrown in...
That's why I now file everything in a very methodical fashion.
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Re: Methods for filing and archiving negs????
« Reply #7 on: October 18, 2006, 10:57:37 PM »
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Leon, I'm interested that you throw away negs. Would never have thought that of you. You're obviously a hard man deep inside all the friendly, fluffy exterior

Read in Lenswork where Bill Jay was going through his portfolio of favourite images and noted that in most cases they were never his first choices at the time of taking.  I can however see advantages to Leon's policy where you are constantly moving forward with new work.

As regards storing and caring for negatives i knew a guy who used to dry his negatives on the washing line. True. :o

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