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LT

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any hassy experts out there?
« on: January 28, 2008, 04:37:12 PM »
I have some very old hassy gear which I am using to (try to start) photographing a new project.  Trouble is each time I try to start the ball rolling something gets in my way ... first I was ill, then the weather didnt play along nicely, now the bloody camera gear wont work.

The problem is this.  I managed to actually get to the location this morning - perfect weather conditions for what I am after.  I lined up the first shot with the 500 C, loaded the film into the ancient back - noticed the numbers didnt appear in the film counter window, but worked out I could view the numbers on the backing paper through the flap on back of film back, but the film kept winding (perhaps I should have known this was a bad omen ... I got it lined up to frame 2).  I fitted the back - both little circles were white so all seemed good to go, removed the dark slide,flipped the shutter pre-release, then nothing would work.  The shutter wouldn't fire at all.  I've tried the body with an different back which works fine (and the film stops correctly so I'm guessing the older back is dodgy) - but now the problem is the shutter in the lens is permanently closed as it is when the pre-release is selected and I cant get it open in order to see through the viewfinder.  The shutter fires fine, I just cant see anything in the view finder between shots.  All red/white circles are corresponding correctly and the lens is lined up with the body fine (I can remove it when I should be able to).  I've tried it on the 500 c/m body I've got too but it is still stuck in this status ..

Any one know how I get the lens back into the correct status so I can line up shots again???
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Re: any hassy experts out there?
« Reply #1 on: January 28, 2008, 05:11:51 PM »
From what I remember, there are 2 rotating screw like things on the lens that are used for the cocking mechanism...
on the Medfmt library, they have a lot of Hassy info
http://web.archive.org/web/20060508220723/medfmt.8k.com/mf/cameras.html

also this on unjamming a hassy
http://web.archive.org/web/20050308183849/photoweb.net/pw_tech/hassy_unjam.html
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Re: any hassy experts out there?
« Reply #2 on: January 28, 2008, 05:17:45 PM »
thanks for the help Francois, but the camera isnt jammed - it's a problem with the lens leaf blade settings, not the cocking mechanism
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Re: any hassy experts out there?
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2008, 05:24:04 PM »
I'd echo what Francois said... sounds like it's jammed. It's just a matter of turning the cocking screw (the small one on the left) and either turning the winder or removing the lens. Just mind the rear element doesn't get punched with the screwdriver whilst attempting this. Might help to have an assistant the first time for safety (of the camera). Once you've done it though, it's not too hard.

If it happens frequently it's likely a broken spring, and may need servicing.

It can definitely be incredibly frustrating though... I was out the other night under the full moon. Took about 15 minutes setting up the tripod and metering the scene in freezing weather only to have mine jam on my when I tried the first exposure... I've taken to carrying a small screwdriver in the camera bag just in case.


OKAY- Just noticed your reply... can the lens be removed from the body? If so, I think you should be able to manually fire it from the backside by pressing the tiny button next to the small knob with the red arrow... (gosh hope that made sense). I think the lens may need to be cocked, by turning the cocking mechanism on the back.

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« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2008, 05:29:14 PM »
thanks Jason - I'll give that a try (yes, the lens can come off!)
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« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2008, 05:29:42 PM »
That's a good sign!  ;D

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« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2008, 05:38:23 PM »
jason - you are a star of the highest order - all fine now - cheers mate.
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« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2008, 05:39:59 PM »
Glad I could help.  :D

Must admit, I wouldn't have known if it hadn't first happened to me...

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« Reply #8 on: January 28, 2008, 10:37:05 PM »
happens to all Hass users sooner or later.

Easy to jam things up if you try to mount the lens with the camera in the mirror-up position. Your screwdriver needs to be a permanent part of your kit. And if ever you can't remove the lens, you'll need to take the film back off and reach right though the body to reset that screw!

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Re: any hassy experts out there?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2008, 12:43:05 PM »
I have never had any trouble with mine but will familiarising myself with all this when I get home and inserting said screwdriver in bag. Pheew, thanks guys!

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« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2008, 06:42:06 PM »
I always keep a five pence coin in the bag. That doubles up for when the screwdriver goes missing...

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Re: any hassy experts out there?
« Reply #11 on: February 01, 2008, 12:58:33 AM »
Yeah, like Phil, haven't had this issue yet, knock on wood, but I'll keep this info in mind.

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« Reply #12 on: February 01, 2008, 01:06:21 AM »
Come to think of it, I had been wondering if it did not have anything to do with the pre-release or using a shutter release cable...

It's only happened to me twice, but both times were when I was trying to use a shutter release to do longer exposures. Leon mentioned that he was using the pre-release (and possibly a cable?) as well when it happened to him.

Do any other Hassy users have issues with this? Are there certain shutter cables that work better than others, or ones that are made to be used with Hasselblads... perhaps related to the length of the actual mechanism which fires the shutter not being able to fully depress the shutter button? I'm only speculating... any thoughts/experiences might be helpful.

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Re: any hassy experts out there?
« Reply #13 on: February 01, 2008, 01:10:23 AM »
Hmm, since I mostly shoot in low-light situations with my Hassy (it seems), I'm almost always shooting with a shutter release cable.  I'm just using the shutter release cable that I already had, but it does have a rather lengthy "pin".