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Bronica S2 50mm Nikkor lens with fungus
« on: November 11, 2014, 12:34:12 PM »
Went to get my 50mm bronica lens last night and was upset to see it has developed some fungus.

I'm not really in a position to pay to have it sorted at the moment (if that is even possible now) - anyone ever taken one of these things apart or any thoughts? I know it's a dangerous game to do this myself...


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Re: Bronica S2 50mm Nikkor lens with fungus
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2014, 03:48:42 PM »
is it the 3.5 nikkor? if it's any help, I think a friend declared it a copy of the 28mm 3.5

they look similar anyway
http://www.mir.com.my/rb/photography/companies/nikon/nikkoresources/28mmnikkor/28mmf35.htm
http://nikomat.org/priv/camera/mednikkor/bronica/brolens/brolens.html#5035
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Re: Bronica S2 50mm Nikkor lens with fungus
« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2014, 03:56:00 PM »
Put it in a window where it can get some sunlight for a while, that may kill the fungus.  If it's on the edge of the lens it will have little effect on the image.

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Re: Bronica S2 50mm Nikkor lens with fungus
« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2014, 05:15:04 PM »
I've never dealt with that or any Bronica lens, but I've taken apart quite a few lenses. Most are pretty straight-forward once you figure out how to get inside initially. If you do, the absolute hands-down best thing I've ever used on fungus is moisturizing hand cream. Apply generously, wait five minutes, remove and clean the lens normally. You will be amazed.
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Re: Bronica S2 50mm Nikkor lens with fungus
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2014, 05:17:53 PM »
+1 for daylight. 

The hand lotion might remove the fungus but to kill it and prevent it returning, you need to store the lens in daylight.  If it's etched into the coating or even the glass itself, there's nothing you can do other than hope it doesn't degrade the image.
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Re: Bronica S2 50mm Nikkor lens with fungus
« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2014, 05:50:13 PM »
Chalky,
I had a look at some of these on ebay (some good closeup photos there).  Am I right in thinking that the S2 has the shutter in the camera body and not the lens?  If so, it makes the lens simpler and safer to take apart.  From what I can see--not having tinkered with this specific lens--it looks pretty simple.  The rear elements seem to be held in place with a couple of retaining rings that have the slots cut into them for removal with a spanner wrench.  The front retaining ring doesn't have the slots--to remove it you'd need one of those rubber things that Micro-tools sells for the purpose.  (Or, if you feel adventurous and have VERY steady hands, you can drill two small holes directly opposite each other in the ring face and use the pointed ends of your spanner wrench to screw the retaining ring out.) But once you've got the affected element out it should be easy enough to clean the fungus off.  If, as Paul says, the fungus has etched itself into the lens coating you can't fix the damage without re-coating the lens.  In any case, you needn't mess with the aperture mechanism, greatly reducing the likelihood of doing any mechanical damage in the process of lens element removal.

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Re: Bronica S2 50mm Nikkor lens with fungus
« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2014, 05:50:27 PM »
I hope it's not kept in a leather case

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Re: Bronica S2 50mm Nikkor lens with fungus
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2014, 07:58:47 PM »
Daylight does get rid of a reasonable amount of Fungus. My Sigma 170-500 had some fungus and leaving it pointed at the window got rid of about 80% of it. So it sort of works. What is left has not effect on the image as well :-)
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Re: Bronica S2 50mm Nikkor lens with fungus
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2014, 08:54:41 PM »
Thanks all - so daylight will remove the fungus? I have read elsewhere it will only halt the growth?

I'm in the UK so there is not a lot of sunlight right now but I will use what I can!

I've tried to get into the lens by removing visible screws, but got nowhere.

Terry - you are right the shutter is in the camera. That all sounds quite adventurous!

Jojonas - it is the lens you show on this link http://nikomat.org/priv/camera/mednikkor/bronica/brolens/brolens.html#5035

Thank you I will keep trying!

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Re: Bronica S2 50mm Nikkor lens with fungus
« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2014, 09:34:02 PM »
ahh I thought I had just done it, removed the rear two elements (won't mention how you'll cringe) but there was a third i couldnt remove!

I will have to try to work out how to get the front off, and try the tool above, the fungus is on the inside of the front element.

cheers all

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Re: Bronica S2 50mm Nikkor lens with fungus
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2014, 09:48:16 PM »
I have also read that a 50/50 mix of ammonia and hydrogen peroxide will remove the fungus.  That should be done in a well ventilated area like outdoors.   

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Re: Bronica S2 50mm Nikkor lens with fungus
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2014, 09:52:34 PM »
I have also read that a 50/50 mix of ammonia and hydrogen peroxide will remove the fungus.  That should be done in a well ventilated area like outdoors.

It might, but the hand cream will do it without the fumes.
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Re: Bronica S2 50mm Nikkor lens with fungus
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2014, 10:58:15 PM »
Bleach will also kill it... so will TSP.
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