Topic: Peeling questions

[Andrej K]

Today, thanks to generous Ezzie, I have peeled apart my polaroid virginity. Went out for a walk with the kuds and made a few snaps.
Now I have a question to ask - what do you do with finished pola/fujiroid prints in the field? I mean, the kids were hangin around me (or on me, to be precise) so i carefully put still damp prints in my bag and hoped for the best. Worked fine. But what if I want to preserve the negatives? I read and saw videos about bleaching fuji negs and using them for scanning or even contact printing.. How shall I preserve those? What are your methods in the field?
Thanks..

 

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[Bryan]

The color film will not over develop so you can wait until you get home before peeling them apart.  Just put them in a plastic bag and be careful not to apply pressure to them, that may affect the image.  I don't know how long it can go so I would peel it as soon as you have a good opportunity and a good place to set the film down to dry.  Stuff can stick to the film if something touches it before it dries.  I'm not sure how the black and white film reacts if you wait a long time before peeling it.

[limr]

Ah, this is the thorn in my Polaroid-loving side.

The problem I have with waiting to peel the film apart is that this doesn't give me a chance to take another shot if I've bollixed the first one. I like to peel it apart so I can see if I want to make any adjustments. But I still want to keep the negatives of the prints that I don't necessarily like, especially if the print is underexposed because that negative will yield better results than the one for a properly or overexposed print. It's one of the reasons so many of my shots are around my house!

The few times I've taken the Pola out and about, I've limited myself to maybe 4 shots. The prints dry relatively quickly and can be placed in a safe place in a bag, but I carry the negatives out so they can dry. I'll put two back to back so the emulsions aren't touching anything. If I take 2 more shots and place the negatives back to back, I can hold the tabs at a 90 degree angle to the other two and keep all four emulsions separate.

It's less than ideal and I've only attempted it one or two times. On other 'field' trips, I've stayed close to my car and I lay the negatives emulsion side up on the back seat. I have been trying to think of better solutions and am thinking of making myself something along the lines of a bento box, but adapted for Pola negatives. (A bento box, in case anyone doesn't know, is a stackable lunch box, like this: http://www.amazon.com/Bentgo-All-Stackable-Lunch-Bento/dp/B00B78UBO4/ref=pd_sim_k_44?ie=UTF8&refRID=176D1VHW6AK35W5RG261  The available ones aren't really adaptable for negatives, but maybe I can fashion something from one of those photo storage boxes and some stackable dividers inside.)

[SLVR]

This has always been one of the reasons why I don't usually shoot peel apart outside. Peeling and carrying the images around is usually a giant pain. I can second the notion to peel when you get home. But if you have an older camera with a flakey meter, it can be an expensive failure.

Ive seen people who will take a small card box and add in some dividers to keep the prints from sticking as they dry. Not sure what a suitable solution for the negs would be though.

OT: Your carrot cake looks good.

[Adam Doe]

What I do is take the cardboard box from the film and then after peeling my first shot I hold it for a minute or two so that it dries. Then I place it in the box. My next shot I also hold for a minute to dry post-peel and then place it in the box with its back against the back of the first shot. The third shot,  place its back toward the front of the first shots front. Fourth shot's back to the second shots front, and so forth...

I don't often have problems with images sticking unless I'm in a rush and don't allow enough time for drying.

[nepumug]

I use cardboxes from empty black and white paper. For me the key really is patience (if possible),
I try always to wait for 2 minutes depending on the temperature of course to let the positives dry.
I also cut baking paper into sheets that fit the cardbox, which I place between the pictures,
this especially prevents sticking when I dont peel the border of 669 for example, because big goo drips take long to dry.

You can carry a second box for Fuji Negatives. But I dont let them dry, I just put the baking paper in between, no problems so far.

And if I don't have the time to wait, I place the two pieces from the cardbox like bowls flat in my backpack (or photobag)
and let the "freshest" 2 pictures dry inside while I'm walking on. When they are dry I put baking paper on top again.

[Andrej K]

Plenty good ideas, thanks!
Have to agree with limr though that peeling at home kinda spoils the whole idea.. I don't see the problem with waiting a couple of minutes when on my own, on the contrary.. But it may be difficult with the three little dudes..

PS: Tintin, thanks, the cake was (sadly) very good. Bday cake for the youngest, 2y/o today. The lad, not the cake.

[Chalky]

worth a read http://moominsean.blogspot.co.uk/2012/05/polaroids-pack-film-field-experience.html

I just peel em, then put them in an empty film contained when dry...
end up having them between my teeth etc when drying so I can shoot others, the goop tastes nasty!

fuji can stay unpeeled, think 3000b just unpeels itself to be honest. I dont normally try and keep the negs, so hard to keep dust off them...

lots of good ideas here though :-)

[Francois]

I always carry an empty film cartridge on which I've removed the staple and the foam and hammered the puncture marks flat.
I figure that there's no better place to store them than the container they came in

[limr]

I was thinking about this and it occurs to me that it might not be necessary to be so uber careful with the 100C negs. Somebody correct me if I'm wrong, but the goop gets washed off anyway, so if it gets smudged or a bit dusty, it probably won't affect the negative. I mean, I'd still be careful, but if it's not a disaster if they touch something while still wet, it might be easier to devise a way to store them out in the field. I'm thinking clipboard and wax paper.

The 3000B negatives, however, are much more sensitive. They don't get washed and have to be scanned as is and inverted on the computer. So if anything happens to those negatives, the image might be ruined. That's where my bento box idea might come in handy. I've been working through some solutions in my head, and it might be quite easy to fashion a photo box with dividers and layers.

Great, now instead of grading papers like I ought to do tomorrow, I'll probably be fussing with glue and card stock!

[Ezzie]

Brilliant Andrej

I see you have got the exposure right. Nice vibrant FP100C. Enough to get anybody hooked.

Regarding prints, I have a box with slots to put the prints in, or use Francois' method with a used cartridge. For negs I use the the cardboard film box. Keeping the negs separated doesn't really matter, to reclaim them you need to wash them anyway. For FP3000B negs however, they need to be kept separated, and out of sunlight or they get solarised.

[Francois]

just check this out
http://goodephotography.wordpress.com/2012/05/13/drying-your-fp-100c-prints/

[Ezzie]

I have a box along the same principle.