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Title: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: gary m on February 28, 2006, 02:02:34 PM: Polaroid shots welcome ???
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: LT on February 28, 2006, 02:10:07 PM: of course :)
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: This-is-damion on February 28, 2006, 08:59:16 PM: ......said leon through gritted teeth!

;D

its like a darkroom in a box!
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Skorj on February 28, 2006, 10:33:52 PM: Quote from: gary m on February 28, 2006, 02:02:34 PM
Polaroid shots welcome ???

It had better be OK, otherwise I will need to remove my present Portfolio here... Skorj.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Zoe on March 01, 2006, 07:37:44 AM: I'm sure it's been announced here and there... but does everyone know that Polaroid discontinued Type 85 (for the Holgaroid) and Type 665? If you don't know and it's your film (drug) of choice, you better stock up. I'm devastated... I use Type 85 for the majority of my work. :(
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: This-is-damion on March 01, 2006, 09:27:36 AM: thats terrible,

i was gutted with sx-70 going, im now only really using type 87 & 667, when i get soem money im going to stock up as im sure there is trouble brewing at polaroid HQ?
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Susan B. on March 01, 2006, 09:40:55 AM: Zoe--this is so weird.

I ran into you at Freestyle last week- I had no idea it was you until now.
You were buying a huge stack of polaroid film and we talked about how glorious film was.

Small damn world.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Zoe on March 01, 2006, 10:33:20 AM: Quote from: Susan B. on March 01, 2006, 09:40:55 AM
Zoe--this is so weird.

I ran into you at Freestyle last week- I had no idea it was you until now.
You were buying a huge stack of polaroid film and we talked about how glorious film was.

Small damn world.

WOW! This is really weird! It was certainly nice to talk to you there.... we should do more! :) I was so irritated that day because my film was gone. I'm sure it showed. LOL It's a small world afterall...
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 02, 2006, 04:27:21 AM: Quote from: Skorj on February 28, 2006, 10:33:52 PM
Quote from: gary m on February 28, 2006, 02:02:34 PM
Polaroid shots welcome ???

It had better be OK, otherwise I will need to remove my present Portfolio here... Skorj.

Best not...those are sickening great shots...a lot I've never seen before, O master of the street. I need to take the 420 out...and soon.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: This-is-damion on March 02, 2006, 09:20:19 AM: Yeah I think our skorji's polaroids are pretty much up there with the best of them. love them as a series as well. one of the hadest thing i find with photgraphy is taking photos in a theme, im sure i can come up with the odd corker here and there -but to develop a coherent, thematic portfolio i would stumble and fall long before id got my lens cap off but Skorji excels at this. (not wanting to be overly :-* :-* :-* , but he does!

and for one so young! as per his photo in a book i saw recently, im sure he is only 14
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: sparx on March 02, 2006, 12:12:32 PM: Been thinking about going holgaroid. Does anybody know if the CB80 back is available in the UK or am I going to have to ship one over from someone like Freestyle?
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Zoe on March 05, 2006, 01:59:43 AM: Quote from: sparx on March 02, 2006, 12:12:32 PM
Been thinking about going holgaroid. Does anybody know if the CB80 back is available in the UK or am I going to have to ship one over from someone like Freestyle?

Holgaroid is a blast, I don't know where you get them in the UK. Although since the Type 85 film has been discontinued for it, you won't have any negatives to work with, only positives. A real bummer for me. All the other Type 80 series films are being produced for the Holgaroid except for the only Pos/neg film for it.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Ed Wenn on March 05, 2006, 08:44:49 AM: I'm gutted about the news of Polaroid discontinuing all of the pos/neg film mainly because I have a fridge full of expired 55 and no camera to use it with. Am thinking of making a 5x4 pinhole just to use it up before it really, really expires. The plan was to get my shit together with this (slightly) cheaper film bought on oBay and then start using 55 and 665 seriously once I'd worked out what was good and what wasn't. Now it looks like that window is closing very quickly. Bummed >:(

It was a project I was saving for a rainy day/week/month.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: artpunk on March 06, 2006, 08:25:02 AM: Polaroid rocks and Skorj's polaroids rock big time, as does his modified polaroid camera which I am still fetishing!
I've heard that 84, 88 and 89 type pack film will be replaced by Polaroids "Viva" also...hmmmm, but have been assured that the rest of the 600 series pack-films as well as the 4 x 5 format film will be produced for a while (whatever "a while" means) I suppose time will tell...
The only pos--neg film I had for my polaroid was so out of date that it didn't even come out of the cassette at all when I pulled the tab...so I guess I may never experience that sort of particular film...so scans of my usual polaroid prints will be producing the only kind of polaroid "negative" I know - the digital kind!
Sparx, you can order polaroid backs for the holga from www.unsaleable.com in Vienna but I'm not sure how that compares costwise with options like freestyle...
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Theresa on March 06, 2006, 03:50:41 PM: Quote from: Zoe on March 01, 2006, 07:37:44 AM
I'm sure it's been announced here and there... but does everyone know that Polaroid discontinued Type 85 (for the Holgaroid) and Type 665? If you don't know and it's your film (drug) of choice, you better stock up. I'm devastated... I use Type 85 for the majority of my work. :(

That really blows, considering I just acquired my first polaroid at a flea mkt this weekend (a 360 with lots of goodies). I went looking at polaroid when I got home to see what film to get and never saw the discontinuing notice.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 06, 2006, 06:38:07 PM: Nnn, don't give up...try your photo lab you use, if you do use one, and ask them to call around their other stores they have here and there to see if one of them has it on stock, etc. I did just that with mine with the time zero film, 669, 667, 500 and others, that were scattered around they found for me. They have 40 packs of tz waiting for me when I'm ready to buy and just brought home 10. I prefer the 667, but shot a round of 669...erm, can't seem to throw one out properly...out of focus, etc. and maybe try a lift from one or two...I dunno. See what you are able to do...that sucks though.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Zoe on March 07, 2006, 01:12:26 AM: Quote from: ed.wenn on March 05, 2006, 08:44:49 AM
I'm gutted about the news of Polaroid discontinuing all of the pos/neg film mainly because I have a fridge full of expired 55 and no camera to use it with. Am thinking of making a 5x4 pinhole just to use it up before it really, really expires. The plan was to get my shit together with this (slightly) cheaper film bought on oBay and then start using 55 and 665 seriously once I'd worked out what was good and what wasn't. Now it looks like that window is closing very quickly. Bummed >:(

It was a project I was saving for a rainy day/week/month.

Hi Ed...

They are NOT discontinuing Type 55. 665 & 85 are getting the hatchet. I've been in contact with Barbara Hitchcock there... begging... pleading... we shall see what response I get from the "business developers." Probably nothing but an "i'm sorry," but it doesn't hurt to try anyway.

Z
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Theresa on March 08, 2006, 01:13:00 AM: just found out that Calumet still has some stock of 665. it's spendy.

Adorama does not, despite what their website might lead you to believe (not that I'm bitter)
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 08, 2006, 03:12:10 AM: FilmAce, a Polaroid dealer, has stuff by the cases....uh, you might need to count your quarters though...jeesh....and I'm not sure if anyone can just buy...I looked at prices and reached for a gun.

http://www.filmace.com/index.htm
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Zoe on March 08, 2006, 04:22:57 AM: Quote from: beck on March 08, 2006, 03:12:10 AM
FilmAce, a Polaroid dealer, has stuff by the cases....uh, you might need to count your quarters though...jeesh....and I'm not sure if anyone can just buy...I looked at prices and reached for a gun.

http://www.filmace.com/index.htm

I hear that they are shipping until the end of April... so if a store near you runs out of film, wait for the first of the month and try again. Freestyle ran out due to me an another photographer buying it all up, then they got another shipment... so hold out on those $900.00 cases for now. I have a frig stocked now, so I'm feeling a little better. I got 100 packs. 1,000 images ... maybe i should make a book of my last 1,000 images... hmm... seems too apocolyptic. ha!
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 08, 2006, 05:23:26 AM: I got mine all stalked up in the crisper....next to my zucchini...ahem.

This place has some film too...

http://www.ecamerafilms.com/instantfilm.html

(http://static.flickr.com/39/108512817_678d2398d7.jpg)

Freak Out
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: gary m on March 09, 2006, 12:31:23 AM: Finally got off my ass and did some new manips.

(http://static.flickr.com/47/109858457_1b5b62031e.jpg?v=0)
(http://static.flickr.com/36/109858455_c6bded78c8.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Rogerrr on March 09, 2006, 11:20:14 PM: Speaking of Zoe buying towering stacks of Polaroid film....that's what led to these T-shirts for film lovers:

http://www.cafepress.com/duckfigital

(...not that I really all that anti-digital...but it just seemed fun)
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: artpunk on March 09, 2006, 11:25:37 PM: Whoa Beck, that is one of the freakiest (and one of the coolest) manips I have seen in a long time. Gary, you probably already know how much I like your manipulations (at least you will if you read my comments on your uploads at polanoid).

If anyone is interested in doing manipulations and are not sure exactly where to start it really is time you became a member at polanoid.net and downloaded my talented friend Filippo Centenari's e-book on the topic, it really is quite inspiring! (look in the tools - techniques section) ~ http://www.polanoid.net

:)
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: HolgaJen on March 10, 2006, 10:59:37 PM: This doesn't really have anything to do with anything, but my mom dug up a bunch of old photos and I just had to share this polaroid shot :D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/jenv101/polaroids/70smen.jpg)
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 11, 2006, 11:22:42 PM: That picture is so hot...it looks like 70's greasy porn.

I'm addicted to this time zero now dammit...and here I was dissing it bad not long ago. I'm sorry, P. I look at folks' manips and most look like smoov butter...mine looks like I have cement in my hand when manipulating it...I push so hard...ahem. I try not to though and warm it up by moving it around first...this is not sounding right at all....okay, so back to nips...hahaaa.....I have to put my photo on a semi hard surface and try it that way...oh dear god I have to stop here.

Here's my best...I think so at least. Gary, I dig those...you know this.

(http://my-expressions.com/up_media/3303/pblog/3761/1142061725.jpg)

I like to call this, Depressionism.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Zoe on March 12, 2006, 05:01:08 AM: Quote from: jenv101 on March 10, 2006, 10:59:37 PM
This doesn't really have anything to do with anything, but my mom dug up a bunch of old photos and I just had to share this polaroid shot :D

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v165/jenv101/polaroids/70smen.jpg)

70s gotta love the 70s. haha
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: HolgaJen on March 12, 2006, 06:05:49 PM: By the way~ thats my dad (the one on the left with the fro) so please don't mention porn again..... :o lol
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: gary m on March 13, 2006, 12:08:49 PM: Here is a really nice sx-70 manipulation guide http://www.polanoid.net/tools/download?f=e-book-001-sx70manip.pdf
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Theresa on March 14, 2006, 04:09:54 PM: let's just say you accidentally overdid it and ended up with a bunch of 665. not that I did, mind you. just hypothetically. how might you store it best for long term? hypothetically.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Skorj on March 14, 2006, 11:37:38 PM: Quote from: Theresa on March 14, 2006, 04:09:54 PM
how might you store it best for long term?
Fridge. Just do not freeze I think. That sounds like a nice hypothetical situation to be in. Hypothetically would you need a mini-bar fridge, or a hunter's bear fridge? Skj.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Theresa on March 15, 2006, 02:18:54 PM: wondered if it could be frozen.

not that I'd know, but I'd guess it would be a couple of the minibar type. hypothetically.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: artpunk on March 16, 2006, 05:24:16 AM: Don't freeze it, I'm pretty sure that's a definite no-no, but fridge should be fine. A hypothetical bar-fridge is a very good idea. Hypothetically speaking if caught in a hypothetical jam one could always offer some hypothetically overstocked hypothetical 665 film to certain hypothetical members of a hypothetical forum, perhaps even in a specific hypothetical thread who would (hypothetically) be more than happy to offer hypothetical (or even actual) money for any hypothetical film that one might not be able to use in a given hypothetical time...hypothetically speaking of course...
;) ??? ::)
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Theresa on March 16, 2006, 03:42:03 PM: lol.

wait, I'm confused now. do I have the film or don't I?
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: artpunk on March 17, 2006, 05:05:23 AM: Quote from: Theresa on March 16, 2006, 03:42:03 PM
lol.

wait, I'm confused now. do I have the film or don't I?

:D - ummm, that depends on whether your question is hypothetical, rhetorical or philosophical...?

(http://www.notreality.org/graphics/bio_pic.jpg)
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 17, 2006, 05:10:22 AM: ...or weather or not it's Hypothermiacal. ;D

Okay, that was dumb....but your picture isn't...rowl.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: artpunk on March 17, 2006, 05:13:51 AM: Quote from: beck on March 17, 2006, 05:10:22 AM
...or weather or not it's Hypothermiacal. ;D

- oh no, that wasn't dumb, that's pretty quick repartee Beck - I like it! 8)
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 17, 2006, 05:20:53 AM: I just caught your signature! Ha...I need to toss that one on....now back to your regularly scheduled program.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: artpunk on March 17, 2006, 05:30:05 AM: Yep, you can't beat Frank...sorry, this is all getting a bit OT isn't it?...btw Beck rowl? ...*heh* ROWL back at you!
;)
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 17, 2006, 08:45:58 PM: Plrb... :)

I have a question concerning the recent stuff I've been doing with my postive and negative Polaroid shots...and if anyone could possbily give me some advice, it would be greatly appreciated.

Most of you have seen my work lately, well, some, and while it's not the greatest thing in the world, it is different and kind of exciting to me turning these Polaroid shots around and scanning them. Looking at them in person, you won't see much, or anything, besides that milky white powder...and when you scan these, they take on a whole new light...one that I find interesting.

But, the only thing is, is trying to figure out a way to have these put on paper...prints...as I don't have any sort of great printer...none, in fact. Nor do I have a burner on my hard drive. However, I was told about these small gadgets, a jump drive, and purchasing one and possbily uploading scanned images from those shots and perhaps taking them somewhere where they can scan them professionally...hi resolution and all. Say, at 7x7? I'm not sure really.

So what do you think? Do you think they would fair nicely if I were to have them printed? Or something? Or would they have this cheese factor...I don't know really.

(http://static.flickr.com/49/111145719_2ff342b524.jpg)

(http://static.flickr.com/56/110975751_7483aadf91.jpg)
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Theresa on March 17, 2006, 08:56:12 PM: I think they're quite wonderful looking. there's no reason in the world you couldn't take these to have them professionally scanned just like you scanned them. just tell them what you did. email them jpgs to show they looked when you did it and they should be able to match it.

or

does your file have enough resolution to print digitally (300dpi at the size you want it printed)? because you can email or do ftp uploads to many digital printing services.

I like to print much of my md format work 28x28in on canvas. unframed. I think these would look killer like that.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 17, 2006, 09:11:53 PM: Thanks. Hmm, yea, those could be possibilities...but I think I may go and look for one of these...I just have to ask which one would suit me best and the amount of storage capacity I would need, as there are hundreds of them and MB's. I can just simply pop it in, transfer my files and take it somewhere...or to someone. But I'm not certain what size of a file for each individual scan I should do...I may have to ask then.

I'd still like to hear other options, if anyone has a few...thanks, Theresa.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 18, 2006, 03:32:07 AM: I just finished another manipulation...but I'm not sure if it's proper to put it here...it's kind of...well, um...soft. I have it at Flickr, incase anyone cares to look.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: ann on March 18, 2006, 01:02:14 PM: Beck,

just take the images you wish to have reprinted on paper to a company who does high end digital printing. Have it scanned at the highest resolution available. They can print it out on a variety of papers and at a variety of sizes. have them run an artist proof for you so you an check the color, etc.

I have time zero manuipulations done all the time this way, as i don't want to sell the orginal and it is nice to have a larger version. My standard size is 6x6, but i have had one enlarged to 3 1/2 foot square for someone for their office. It was printed out on canvas and treaded with a UV spray. I had my doubts that it would be any good at that size, but i was very wrong. Turned out beautifully.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: Tammy on March 18, 2006, 02:05:35 PM: If you live too remote from any decent lab (as I do), there is the option of a place like mpix.com. (The site is cheesy but you might find something appealing in the products) They are a division of a professional service (need a tax ID for the other place, I think), but gives some digital printing options. You size it yourself (make sure the final resolution is 300dpi or whatever they need) and then pick the type of paper and printing you want- even canvas. You would ftp them the file and provide some money, and they send you the stuff in a couple of days. I did this a couple of times a while ago before I had a printer.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: This-is-damion on March 18, 2006, 06:47:58 PM: some AMAZING stuff in this thread!! i dont use my polaroid enough, i have 2 boxes of sx-70 left and im scared to use it!

need to do some lifts as well
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 18, 2006, 06:55:59 PM: I thought that said two cases...cripes. I think I have 5 left and will put some on order tomorrow. I can't get enough of that junk.

I think I caught some by surprise with my latest manip at the other place...well, it is art to me and I'd like to do more of the same soon. If any of the administrators here find it offensive, please, remove it. It's my second best yet...

(http://static.flickr.com/53/113959257_af8de0257c.jpg)
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: artpunk on March 18, 2006, 10:53:32 PM: edited to say ~ btw Beck, I love those artistic positive/negative examples you posted above, I think they would look marvellous printed large!
I have some (maybe 3 boxes = 30 polas) of manipulable Time Zero film, but am almost afraid to use it! Instead I've been "mucking around" with my 600 intergral film to try and reproduce some of Rene Magritte's works in Polaroid form.

(http://www.punkclown.net/images/Magritte-8.jpg)
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 19, 2006, 05:46:24 AM: Thanks, Cameron...and darn it, use that film and soon. You know, I dig how did this Polaroid and I can't figure out the flower part though, but it's a fantastic nonetheless and I'll need to do a search on that particualr image. I think that's a grand idea and even once thought of doing Frida Kahlo's, Girl with Death Mask, with one of the toys...I'll buy the exact kind of dress the girl is wearing and make the two masks pictured in her painting...and find a prime location. We shall see. I'd like to see more of these works you've got.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: artpunk on March 19, 2006, 10:02:04 AM: Thanks Beck. The flower image is a reference to one of Magritte's "The Son of Man" painting variations. "The Son of Man" had Magritte's famous bowler-hatted man facing the viewer, but his face is almost completely obscured by an apple. I have seen a version where instead of an apple there is a beautiful large rose, but for the life of me I can't find it anywhere on a web search at the moment! The closest example I could find was his painting "La grande guerre" 1964. Here's a link to some of my other "Hommage to Magritte" polas if you're interested - http://www.polanoid.net/jump/?to=pictures&uid=12&prid=766&pid=17114
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 19, 2006, 05:47:20 PM: Quote from: gary m on March 13, 2006, 12:08:49 PM
Here is a really nice sx-70 manipulation guide http://www.polanoid.net/tools/download?f=e-book-001-sx70manip.pdf

Gary, is there some other way of looking at that file? I cannot for the life of me, open any sort of pdf files on my computer. Even the Krappy Kontest, I could not see.

I was always told to wait a minute or so after taking a Polaroid, is when you can start manipulating...well, it's true in most cases...but I found out even waiting one or even two hours, the emulsion sets softly and nicely and easy to work with....I've let some sit for a day or two and found that you can still manipulate them...sometimes with a little bit of heat from a blow dryer. I swear I'm hooked on doing those and found myself not shooting with any of my toys in quite some time...I think I need a swift kick in the rear end.

Cameron, I'll have to take a look at that linkage...thanks.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: astrobeck on March 21, 2006, 12:40:28 AM: Beck,

What kind of stick are you using to do your manips to make it swirly?
It's really cool looking.
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 21, 2006, 03:51:39 AM: Well, nothing fancy...just the finger rest on a pair of hair sheers is all really. I refuse to use anthing else now and I'll be buried with that goofy tool. Seriously, I've tried every damn thing imaginable...and just took a fancy to using cold steel. Thanks for that, Beck...
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: outofcontxt on March 24, 2006, 04:58:36 PM: Speaking of Polaroid 665, if any of you are in the Chicago area, Calumet Photo on Goose Island had eight boxes left on the shelves. Maybe more in the warehouse. All of them had stickers indicating that the film was being discontinued. Grab it while you can! You can also order it from their website:

http://www.calumetphoto.com/ctl?ac.ui.pn=cat.CatTreeSearch&keywords=665&x=0&y=0
Title: Re: Is it safe to say......Polaroid
Post by: beck on March 26, 2006, 09:58:36 AM: ALL MINE...just kidding...I use the 667 so I'm safe...wait, that's on this Tuesday...that's right, I watch Idol. I want that damn Pentax 645. My birthday is MAY 2!