Filmwasters
Which Board? => Main Forum => : astrobeck March 26, 2018, 05:40:25 PM
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A friend sent me an expired roll of Lucky 120 film to try out and mercy me....
I like a bit of grain, but this is whole grain!
Dunked it in caffenol for 7.5 minutes, and the stuff is curlier than a piglets tail, twisting all about.
anyway, enjoy!
Zero Image 2000 pinhole
Anyone else had a big grain experience with Lucky films?
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Call it pointillist (Seurat, Signac) and sell it for $2000.
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Hey, you might be on to something..if I manage that I'll send you a commission... ::)
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Yikes!
This is on 120? Just imagine what it would be like on 35mm...
You don't even get grain this huge on Minox when using 400 ISO film...
Unbelievable....
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Another way to get grain like that is to develop Kodak Gold in beer.
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/332/32254396481_cc696e48d8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/R9ddma)Grainy Snow (https://flic.kr/p/R9ddma) by Bryan Chernick (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60348236@N07/), on Flickr
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I may have have shared this before Shanghai GP - Reflections - GW690iii - bonus backing paper effect!
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that is a fabulous photo Klaus! I love that grain in this instance quite a lot.
It suites the photo perfectly. 8)
Was this devv'd in caffenol?
Do you think it's a caffenol thing, or is it just the nature of the film? I'm very curious!
Beck
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Every party needs a pooper so I guess it's me ;D
I don't think that is grain, but a physical damage to the emulsion of some kind. Reticulation perhaps?
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Hey pooper!
I wondered about reticulation and I have managed to get that in the past...but isn't reticulation from using different temperatures among the developer, stop and fix?
Also to me the emulsion of this one does look different than the reticulated ones I've had in the past...so are there different degrees of reticulation?
I'm curious as I'd truly like to know...besides, if it is indeed reticulation, then I can probably make that happen on demand.
Otherwise, I'm going to hoard Lucky film and hope the grain stays wholesome.
:)
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Yeah, reticulation is a temperature related thing. It only happens in one direction (from very hot to very cold).
You can achieve the result even after development if you didn't use a hardening fixer. Just heat up the film in water at around 110°F for a few minutes and then plunge in ice water for a few seconds.
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so...it's basically an expansion and contraction thing with the emulsion not being able to keep up?
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Yes, that's exactly it.
The shock makes the emulsion crack and that's what gives it this appearance. You can clearly see the micro lines where the emulsion cracked.
I also read that you can even feel it with your fingers!
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that is a fabulous photo Klaus! I love that grain in this instance quite a lot.
It suites the photo perfectly. 8)
Was this devv'd in caffenol?
Do you think it's a caffenol thing, or is it just the nature of the film? I'm very curious!
Beck
This was done in Ilfosol, normal dev at 20C. This must have been a very bad batch and from the discussions I take it it's not grain.
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I get less grain with 110 film in my Diana and Pentax cameras. I love grain, but that is rather nasty
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Looks more like 60 grit sandpaper ;D