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: Gimme some LIGHT LEAKS up in here!
: jojonas~ August 12, 2015, 08:35:38 AM
Okay, background: I'm looking for examples showing lightleaks from upening the lid on a development tank and those times when you see traces of sprockets (light hitting film when loading in spiral for tank?)

basically, trying to explain these to a friend:
(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/481/20301357390_ea5326078f_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wVXLgh)

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/393/20301360880_63c620049a_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wVXMis)
(red channel seems gone on parts of the roll, like right part of this frame. or is he just compensating for the leaked part and the rest gets left in the dust?)

any clues?



But eh, while we're at it let's make this a nice collection of happy accidents and utter disasters :D

here's a classic holga to get the ball rolling:
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4140/4762791817_8463f522a0.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/8fSy5i)

and a flimsy cardboard pinhole camera falling apart:
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3591/3626404640_076c72469b_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/6wsgKW)
it was a funky gig so it fits :D
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: Sandeha Lynch August 12, 2015, 09:50:45 AM
Accidental opening of the tank ... check.

(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/Sandeha/singapore/bw02_tiger_26b.jpg)

Only happens once, doesn't it?

Pinhole in bellows any use?
(http://i10.photobucket.com/albums/a119/Sandeha/link/051224_tx_03_copy.jpg)

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: jojonas~ August 12, 2015, 12:12:38 PM
Accidental opening of the tank ... check.

Only happens once, doesn't it?

Pinhole in bellows any use?

I'd be glad if it was only once :P
but huh, some sprocket traces there...

bellow'd is good for the general collection :D

that reminds me of my formerly leaky Polaroid ee100s
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8079/8331515504_913cd4da2d_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/dGeci3)
fp3000b + leaky bellows + lit snowscape = bad idea.
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: imagesfrugales August 12, 2015, 12:55:01 PM
Adox Golf with holes in bellows. Acros @ 1600!

(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4080/4935715418_b6ae5d19f1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/8w9QeG)100strangers #1 - Elsa and Edgar (https://flic.kr/p/8w9QeG)
by Imagesfrugales (https://www.flickr.com/photos/imagesfrugales/), on Flickr


Kiev 60 internal stray light

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7070/6951950957_7767318e24_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/bAjyPp)Ulli (https://flic.kr/p/bAjyPp) by Imagesfrugales (https://www.flickr.com/photos/imagesfrugales/), on Flickr
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: jojonas~ August 12, 2015, 01:25:15 PM
Reinhold, it's okay.... you can be true with us if you want to! haven't we all tryed the spotlight effect in photoshop once or twice? ;)

seriously though :D .. really well placed light leak!
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: imagesfrugales August 12, 2015, 02:16:38 PM
Haha, I have the neg as proof   :P  After I had flocked the mirror case, the phenomenon was gone.
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: Indofunk August 12, 2015, 02:30:51 PM
That's definitely one of the best unintentional light leaks I've seen! Here's a couple of my own:

Redscaled 35mm film in a Holga WPC120. The light leak came from the film counter window  :-[
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8724/16673148444_82c001710e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rpmf9C)
Worldwide Pinhole Day (https://flic.kr/p/rpmf9C) by Satish Indofunk (https://www.flickr.com/photos/indofunk/), on Flickr

Dunno where this huge leak came from, maybe the film door wasn't properly closed...
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3954/15589721381_f43a99d5c8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/pKBp2F)
More happy accidents (https://flic.kr/p/pKBp2F) by Satish Indofunk (https://www.flickr.com/photos/indofunk/), on Flickr

And here's one that has sentimental value ... my first roll of film after getting "back into film", probably a good 20 or more years since even touching a film camera ... and I forgot how to rewind the film so I ended up popping open the film door on this last picture in the roll. Luckily, it was a dark club and I closed the door right away, but not before I got this little goodie:
(https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8466/8410606493_bb2030c3e7_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/dPdyhM)
Onward Chariots! (https://flic.kr/p/dPdyhM) by Satish Indofunk (https://www.flickr.com/photos/indofunk/), on Flickr
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: SLVR August 12, 2015, 02:57:40 PM
I've mostly grown up and use cameras that don't give me light leaks  :P :P

I left this roll sitting in a holga for a couple months then just took it out and loaded it in my mamiya 7 at the time.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7295/16414449362_4ca28ab3ef_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r1ukVC)
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: limr August 12, 2015, 03:25:23 PM
One of my favorite mistakes ever. Forgot there was film in the K1000 and opened the back. I shut it immediately and I wasn't in direct sun, so I was hoping something would at least come out. There were several with funky color shifts and sprocket holes. This one was my favorite:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3667/11177964013_c81e52ddd8_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/i2KZgt)
Day 26 - Diner (https://flic.kr/p/i2KZgt) by limrodrigues (https://www.flickr.com/photos/51692918@N05/), on Flickr

If I remember correctly, I did saturate (but not adjust) the colors just a hair - otherwise this is unaltered.
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: jharr August 12, 2015, 03:40:53 PM
This is how I feel about light leaks in my 8x10 foamcore pinhole.

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2813/9830409335_aca6c3ab7c_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fYFqd8)
Selfie-pinhole (https://flic.kr/p/fYFqd8) by James Harr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/harrlequin/), on Flickr
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: Indofunk August 12, 2015, 05:54:32 PM
Looks like 2 candles on the table! :D
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: Bryan August 12, 2015, 06:28:12 PM
So far I have not exposed film during development but I'm sure it will happen eventually.  I did recently have the door to my View-Master camera pop open and expose some of the film.  I got lucky, that camera shoots the top half of the film roll first then the bottom half as it winds back into the cartridge.  I was on the last few frames so only lost a few shots.  Now I gaffer tape the latch.

When I first purchased my Pentax K1000 it still had a roll of film in it.  I shot the rest of that roll to test the camera.  I have since repaired the light seal on the door.  I like this shot because it looks like the cormorant is using the light leak to dry it's wings.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7313/16446890205_d4bc565e8e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/r4mBsv)Cormorant Drying its Wings (https://flic.kr/p/r4mBsv) by Bryan Chernick (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60348236@N07/), on Flickr
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: Jack Johnson August 13, 2015, 06:22:06 AM
Anyone know why light leaks get color shifts?

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5025/5656882718_2d5863c654_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/9BT19E)
Ice (https://flic.kr/p/9BT19E) by Jack Johnson (https://www.flickr.com/photos/27031365@N02/), on Flickr
: Re: Gimme some LIGHT LEAKS up in here!
: jojonas~ August 13, 2015, 07:30:30 AM
colored lightleaks? aren't they usually warm because they're tinted by the orange base? (like redscale, eh?)

anyway, the first shot from my friend has got an explanation. he was rolling film into an old casette and the top of the cartridge popped off :P
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: Peter84 August 13, 2015, 08:48:12 AM

Redscaled 35mm film in a Holga WPC120. The light leak came from the film counter window  :-[


35mm in the Holga WPC120 is some serious field of view, did you use one of those convert-35mm-cartridge-to-120-roll-adapter that are flooding ebay right now?
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: Indofunk August 13, 2015, 12:25:52 PM

Redscaled 35mm film in a Holga WPC120. The light leak came from the film counter window  :-[


35mm in the Holga WPC120 is some serious field of view, did you use one of those convert-35mm-cartridge-to-120-roll-adapter that are flooding ebay right now?

Based on the suggestion of a fellow "frugal" Filmwaster, I just used 2 styrofoam peanuts on he top and the bottom to wedge it in place. Worked like a charm :)
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: Terry August 13, 2015, 01:16:49 PM
Leonore, that diner shot is excellent!!
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: Indofunk August 13, 2015, 05:19:12 PM
Leonore, that diner shot is excellent!!

Agreed!
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: limr August 14, 2015, 02:57:15 AM
Thanks  :) 
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: robclarke August 14, 2015, 11:26:30 PM
That shot of the wedding couple outside a LIDL shop is brilliant.
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: Ed Wenn August 15, 2015, 02:03:56 AM
Hey, I'm enjoying this thread a lot. Some lovely images here and light leaks are a subject close to my heart photographically speaking. I don't have access to any of my archive currently as I'm embroiled in a emotionally distressing  >:( ;D "giving up my hobby room so my daughter can have her own bedroom" situation (heck, who'd have thought an 18 year would need her own room*?!) and all my external drives are in storage. But Flickr does have a few examples (see below). Most of them are as a result of me opening the back of whichever 35mm Pentax SLR I was using back then (2007). We were in Marrakech and the light was pretty intense, but I got some images out of it anyway.

More light leaks, please people!!
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: Flippy August 15, 2015, 03:30:17 PM
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7716/17035275197_eb0ff62139_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/rXmePk)Great Wall (https://flic.kr/p/rXmePk) by Berang Berang (https://www.flickr.com/photos/berangberang/), on Flickr

Great Wall DF-2 leaks a lot. Red windows have faded to yellow.

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7281/16377444568_eec4b9e58f_b.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/qXdFFW)Hero Alarm Clock (https://flic.kr/p/qXdFFW) by Berang Berang (https://www.flickr.com/photos/berangberang/), on Flickr

Pilot 6 leaks a little bit through the red windows. If I'm careful I can avoid it entirely.
: Re: Gimme some LIGHT LEAKS up in here!
: Indofunk August 24, 2015, 03:34:19 PM
From my most recent filmswap with lanolan:

(http://www.indofunkstudios.com/images/filmswaps/2015_08_23_LA_vs_Satish/20150823_001.jpg)

(http://www.indofunkstudios.com/images/filmswaps/2015_08_23_LA_vs_Satish/20150823_003.jpg)

Both leaks are on the left edge of his frames (they're upside down because I oriented them to my redscale frames), so I'm blaming his camera :P Luckily, these are the only 2 frames with lightleaks, so maybe it was an improperly closed door that he rectified quickly :)
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: thatguychad August 25, 2015, 07:01:33 PM
Just a little leak on my Bessa II (I'm guessing a pinhole in the bellows - haven't investigated further):

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5496/9422665049_65746549e8_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/fmDC3e)
Ann Morrison Park (https://flic.kr/p/fmDC3e) by Chad Herbert (https://www.flickr.com/photos/thatguychad/), on Flickr
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: jharr August 25, 2015, 07:28:26 PM
Mmmmm... Bessa II. Light leak or not, that is a nice camera.

Not sure if this one came from the camera, the film cartridge or the dev tank, but there it is. It could of course be an artifact of Satish's film which was reportedly stored in a satchel on the sunny side of a bad tempered camel in the Negev Desert from 5/87 - 12/92. This was followed by storage/transport in the desk drawer of an officer on a Russian nuclear sub, being thrown overboard near the Jersey Shore during "maneuvers" in 2001. Not sure if Satish found it himself or bought it from FPP, but somehow I got it and took a picture of a car with it.

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/663/20836428181_a02669fdc1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xKf9aK)
FTn-Ektachrome64T-029 (https://flic.kr/p/xKf9aK) by James Harr (https://www.flickr.com/photos/harrlequin/), on Flickr
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: Kayos August 25, 2015, 10:12:26 PM
Not sure what happened, first 4 frames and rest of the roll was fine, i'm guessing it was loading into the tank

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5698/20880922785_2808a51b78_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xPbbS6)Light Leak-1 (https://flic.kr/p/xPbbS6) by Stuart Burrows (https://www.flickr.com/photos/kayospics/), on Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5769/20692849560_2d5a08b9fc_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xwygfh)Light Leak-2 (https://flic.kr/p/xwygfh) by Stuart Burrows (https://www.flickr.com/photos/kayospics/), on Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5781/20694178399_c5171b121e_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/xwF5gi)Light Leak-3 (https://flic.kr/p/xwF5gi) by Stuart Burrows (https://www.flickr.com/photos/kayospics/), on Flickr

(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5629/20259894313_2e6e0bc248_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/wSifJD)Light Leak-4 (https://flic.kr/p/wSifJD) by Stuart Burrows (https://www.flickr.com/photos/kayospics/), on Flickr

Last one is my favourite, ignore the newton rings, these were only quickly scanned
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: johan_lindgren August 26, 2015, 06:17:58 AM
Some time ago when I discovered problems with the insulation in my Nikon FA...

(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7267/6930391200_0941104ed6_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/byq4Rs)
agfa18 (https://flic.kr/p/byq4Rs) by Johan (https://www.flickr.com/photos/rubbernglue/), on Flickr
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: Pete_R August 26, 2015, 11:16:14 AM
From a Holga 120 Pan with 90mm Angulon fitted.
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: Indofunk August 26, 2015, 03:52:09 PM
@Kayos: Love those stripey colors!! :)

@jharr: have you considered a career in comedy? :D
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: jharr August 26, 2015, 04:03:30 PM
@jharr: have you considered a career in comedy? :D

No, but that film makes me feel funny. Does that count?
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: Indofunk August 26, 2015, 04:38:43 PM
@jharr: have you considered a career in comedy? :D

No, but that film makes me feel funny. Does that count?

Funny like that feeling you get when you climb the rope in gym class?
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: Francois August 26, 2015, 09:27:24 PM
Somehow, that sounded a bit like Clarkson on topgear  :o :o :o  ;)
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: Adam Doe August 27, 2015, 08:41:22 PM
Somehow, that sounded a bit like Clarkson on topgear  :o :o :o  ;)

I think that was a quote from Garth of Wayne's World.
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: Indofunk August 27, 2015, 08:44:14 PM
Somehow, that sounded a bit like Clarkson on topgear  :o :o :o  ;)

I think that was a quote from Garth of Wayne's World.

 ;)
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: Indofunk August 27, 2015, 08:47:21 PM
I gotta say, I have a very weird pop culture knowledge, that has large gaps particularly between 1984 and 2000. I often find it hard to speak to my real-life friends and even Facebook contacts because of this, but for some reason I find that FW seems to share all my (limited) pop culture knowledge :)
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: Francois August 27, 2015, 11:46:51 PM
You might have some knowledge about Mystery Science Theater 3000 then...
(if not, check it out on youtube...)
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: jojonas~ August 28, 2015, 03:14:08 PM
You might have some knowledge about Mystery Science Theater 3000 then...
(if not, check it out on youtube...)
haha wow I used to love kicking back and watching that show with friends.
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: Francois August 28, 2015, 09:03:57 PM
What surprises me is how good (or bad) it remains after all these years!
For the beginners, their take on Gamera is quite funny :)
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: thatguychad August 28, 2015, 09:51:35 PM
Well then I hope you're aware of rifttrax.com...
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: Francois August 28, 2015, 10:48:08 PM
Yeah... too bad you have to pay to get them  :(
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: thatguychad August 28, 2015, 11:10:35 PM
Yes, but $3-4 each isn't bad.
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: limr September 05, 2015, 01:14:18 AM
Ahhhh, MST3K, yes, yes. Excellent suggestion! There's always one thing from each movie that somehow sticks and ends up being part of my forever lexicon. I know 02Pilot will get the reference, since we usually watch the movies together, but most of the time, no one knows what the hell I'm talking about. Good thing I don't really care about that ;)
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: Francois September 05, 2015, 02:13:38 PM
You just gotta like the satellite of love :)
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: Bryan September 07, 2015, 12:01:51 AM
I've got some light leaks on top of bromide drag (remind me not to do stand development with sprocket holes).  This was a test roll in my new KMZ FT-2 Panoramic camera which are notorious for light leaks.  They can be overcome with a little work, I've ordered the materials I will need to fix some of the leaks.  I can't wait to make the repairs and use this camera again. 

(https://farm1.staticflickr.com/665/21014617619_6ce7465145_c.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/y1ZpFr)Fisherman's Terminal Panoramic (https://flic.kr/p/y1ZpFr) by Bryan Chernick (https://www.flickr.com/photos/60348236@N07/), on Flickr
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: Indofunk September 07, 2015, 05:29:13 PM
Beautiful panorama, despite light leaks and bromide drag!  :D

Just as an aside, I never have problems with bromide drag as long as the total dev time is under 1.5 hours and I invert at least once halfway through. When I stand dev, I use either Rodinal 1:100 or HC110 1:100. What is your stand dev scheme?
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: Bryan September 07, 2015, 08:29:35 PM
Beautiful panorama, despite light leaks and bromide drag!  :D

Just as an aside, I never have problems with bromide drag as long as the total dev time is under 1.5 hours and I invert at least once halfway through. When I stand dev, I use either Rodinal 1:100 or HC110 1:100. What is your stand dev scheme?

I use Rodinal and develop for one hour with 10 agitations at the start and 3 after a half hour.  I haven't had problems with bromide drag before so maybe it's all light leaks.  I think I know where the leaks could be coming from. 
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: Indofunk September 07, 2015, 08:43:12 PM
Beautiful panorama, despite light leaks and bromide drag!  :D

Just as an aside, I never have problems with bromide drag as long as the total dev time is under 1.5 hours and I invert at least once halfway through. When I stand dev, I use either Rodinal 1:100 or HC110 1:100. What is your stand dev scheme?

I use Rodinal and develop for one hour with 10 agitations at the start and 3 after a half hour.  I haven't had problems with bromide drag before so maybe it's all light leaks.  I think I know where the leaks could be coming from.

No, that definitely looks like bromide drag to me. Maybe it's the film? Have you stand-developed this filmstock before with good results?
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: Bryan September 07, 2015, 08:52:39 PM
This was definately my first time with this film.  It's Fjifilm Acros 100, I usually shoot Kodak or Ilford.
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: Indofunk September 07, 2015, 09:50:51 PM
I say problem solved, case closed, tack up another one for the Filmwasters Detective Unit  ;D
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: Indofunk September 07, 2015, 09:51:36 PM
Or CSI:FW ;D ;D ;D
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: Indofunk March 25, 2016, 09:48:33 PM
Boy have I got some light leaks for you. Shot on the last tail end of the Kodak Vision 500T respooled cine film that James sent me, I ripped the film at the end of the roll so I couldn't rewind it back into the canister. I really wanted to keep shooting with the camera, so I opened the camera up under my jacket in the club, hoping that the dark club and the jacket would keep light out. Clearly, this did not happen and there is light leaking all over the place (those aren't stage lights at the top of the frame, they're the sprocket holes).

(http://www.indofunkstudios.com/images/minolta_srt102/2016_03_25_500T@800/20160325_001.jpg)

(http://www.indofunkstudios.com/images/minolta_srt102/2016_03_25_500T@800/20160325_005.jpg)

(http://www.indofunkstudios.com/images/minolta_srt102/2016_03_25_500T@800/20160325_002.jpg)

(http://www.indofunkstudios.com/images/minolta_srt102/2016_03_25_500T@800/20160325_003.jpg)

(http://www.indofunkstudios.com/images/minolta_srt102/2016_03_25_500T@800/20160325_004.jpg)

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: Francois March 25, 2016, 09:57:30 PM
It gives the images, dare I say it, a very lomo look to them  :o
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: Indofunk March 25, 2016, 10:12:06 PM
It gives the images, dare I say it, a very lomo look to them  :o

I don't know what a "lomo look" means, but I really like how they came out :)
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: jharr March 26, 2016, 03:18:05 PM
I like them too Satish. There is currently a developer somewhere feverishly working to get that look in a filter and sell it to Instagram. By the way, the film was Fuji Eterna 500T (expired), not Kodak.
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: imagesfrugales March 26, 2016, 04:45:09 PM
Lovely trashy pics, especially since I play cajon myself.