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Which Board? => Main Forum => : jharr January 13, 2015, 04:57:20 PM
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I realize that this is probably a Lomo advertising gimmick, but still for those of us who enjoy an occasional redscale, it's a fun idea. I will be shooting home-made redscale for the month of February. Anyone else in?
(http://believeinfilm.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/fullsize/believeinredscalefilm.jpg) (http://believeinfilm.com/redscale)
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Could be fun, gimmick or not. I shot a roll of homemade redscale Superia 200 this past summer and was pleasantly surprised with the results (I blasted it by shooting at ISO 12 or so), and I've got a bunch more in the fridge.
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Whats the rule of thumb, over expose by 2 stops? Does this work with slide film or just negative film?
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I have done it with slide film and x-pro'd in C-41 and it worked fine. I think the 'rule' is +2 stops, but that's for fresh film. I don't think I own any of that, so I go +3 over actual (which could be +2 over box speed) at least. That makes for some pretty long exposures, but it suits my style. I think redscale looks best shot on a sunny day. That isn't a problem for me in Feb., but I understand that other parts of the world experience big grey floaty things in the sky that block the sun for sometimes hours or days at a time!!
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So weird. Just yesterday I redscaled one of the millions of rolls of expired Savon I have. Shot it +1EV because I didn't know this "rule". Definitely wasn't enough, the negs are light as a feather. So now I'll try +2 or +3EV.
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Just yesterday I redscaled one of the millions of rolls of expired Savon I have.
So I might as well post the first photo response to this thread, right? :P
(http://www.indofunkstudios.com/images/fw/20150113_01.jpg)
Pushed 3 stops in Lightroom, and blacks and brightness and contrast also significantly boosted. I shall try again today and add a couple more stops at the shooting end of things :P
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That isn't a problem for me in Feb., but I understand that other parts of the world experience big grey floaty things in the sky that block the sun for sometimes hours or days at a time!!
Or months.
Wow, that's some red Indofunk.
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Under expose for very red redscale, more exposure gives a more natural colour palette. I am partial to the latter, so two or more stops is what I would use.
February is admittedly not a good month for slow film, not because of grey wool in the sky, blocking out the sun, but because the sun hardly bothers to rise up over the horizon at all. Midday and my shadow is 50ft long.
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Exposure also depends on what film you're using. Apologies for posting a Lomo link, but it may actually prove useful: http://www.lomography.com/magazine/tipster/2012/03/05/redscale-technique-the-principle-of-light-penetrability (http://www.lomography.com/magazine/tipster/2012/03/05/redscale-technique-the-principle-of-light-penetrability)
What I liked about using redscale and overexposing a lot was not just the shifted palette, but the ability to shoot wide open with a fast lens in bright sunshine. The last roll I did was in my Olympus 35SP, and I shot the whole thing at f/1.7. Two examples that I happen to have available online right now:
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/aegaspari/22Aug2014-1-05_Modified_Border_zpsf486072d.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y121/aegaspari/22Aug2014-1-14_Modified_Border_zps3309447a.jpg)
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I have done it with slide film and x-pro'd in C-41 and it worked fine. ...
Oh yeah?. Sounds interesting. Any examples? I've got a bunch of slide film gathering dust.
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I have done it with slide film and x-pro'd in C-41 and it worked fine. ...
Oh yeah?. Sounds interesting. Any examples? I've got a bunch of slide film gathering dust.
expired Ektachrome 64D @ 16. This was a pretty thin neg. Next time, I will use iso 8 or 4.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3903/15013514662_5aa2f4bcf1_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/oSGbR5)
Abandoned 1 (https://flic.kr/p/oSGbR5) by James Harr's Photos (https://www.flickr.com/people/12936819@N03/), on Flickr
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Thanks for the example James. Cool shot.
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OK, I've gone and loaded a roll of redscaled Superia 200 into my Cero Super Dollina II (if we're going to get weird, let's get weird...). I'll be shooting it at ISO 12. Stay tuned.
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Just finished a roll of Superia 400 that I shot at 50, and at the same time that I rerolled the 400, I redscaled a roll of Superia 200 as well. Shall I put it into my Graflex Ciro? (sadly, that's the weirdest camera I own :( ) I don't particularly like the idea of shooting at ISO 12 on a 3.5 lens, even on a bright day, so maybe I'll just set it at 3.5 and bulb it and hope for an insanely bright day tomorrow and no camera shake...
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Wait, it's not even February yet. Are we allowed to redscale in January? What does Bill Murray have to say about that?
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I'm starting to wonder about red snow...
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Just don't eat the red snow.
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Wait, it's not even February yet. Are we allowed to redscale in January? What does Bill Murray have to say about that?
Probably something like "Gunga galunga".
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Just don't eat the red snow.
Nope... that can't possibly be a good thing...
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February is admittedly not a good month for slow film, not because of grey wool in the sky, blocking out the sun, but because the sun hardly bothers to rise up over the horizon at all. Midday and my shadow is 50ft long.
This is a good point. Slow film is much better utilised in the summer. Although, if I were on Lomo's marketing team, I would've pushed for "Red October", just for the movie reference....
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Well since the soon is rising so late, most people should be awake and ready to shoot, so they could also do a "Red Dawn" theme.
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I'm just going to shoot wide open - f/2.8 on the Super Dollina - and as slow as I can hold semi-steady. Might do some longer exposures with a tripod and cable release if I feel so inclined. Redscale and precision exposure are sort of mutually exclusive.
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This is a good point. Slow film is much better utilised in the summer. Although, if I were on Lomo's marketing team, I would've pushed for "Red October", just for the movie reference....
Thing is that theCamerast... Red October is already taken by Communist Camera month.
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Redscaled film shot on communist cameras for the double entendre (that's not a flower foul, is it?) (http://www.indofunkstudios.com/images/fw/broken-flowers-small.jpg)
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As a matter of principle, I think that from now on I will only shoot redscaled film in cameras produced in Communist states: the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the German Democratic Republic, the People's Republic of Massachusetts, etc.
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I've just received a Zenit ttl, never had much luck with red scale but maybe I will with this one?
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As a matter of principle, I think that from now on I will only shoot redscaled film in cameras produced in Communist states: the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the German Democratic Republic, the People's Republic of Massachusetts, etc.
What a great idea. I too pledge to only shoot Яed film in Яed cameras. Fortunately, I just benefited from the generosity of another Film Waster and received a Zorki-4 with two nice Jupiter lenses. ;D
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As a matter of principle, I think that from now on I will only shoot redscaled film in cameras produced in Communist states: the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the German Democratic Republic, the People's Republic of Massachusetts, etc.
You forgot Czechoslovakia (Meopta Flexaret for instance). And of course, if my father's sympathies are anything to go by, UK in the sixties and seventies. But then again camera production had all but ceased by then. ;)
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As a matter of principle, I think that from now on I will only shoot redscaled film in cameras produced in Communist states: the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the German Democratic Republic, the People's Republic of Massachusetts, etc.
What a great idea. I too pledge to only shoot Яed film in Яed cameras. Fortunately, I just benefited from the generosity of another Film Waster and received a Zorki-4 with two nice Jupiter lenses. ;D
Better Яed than a Fed in the head?
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I like Redscale but usually Redscale season is July for me. February is pretty dreary here for low ISOs... Maybe if I go to Winnipeg in February (one of the sunniest cities in Canada and currently a balmy -9C today) I'll shoot a roll.
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As a matter of principle, I think that from now on I will only shoot redscaled film in cameras produced in Communist states: the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the German Democratic Republic, the People's Republic of Massachusetts, etc.
What a great idea. I too pledge to only shoot Яed film in Яed cameras. Fortunately, I just benefited from the generosity of another Film Waster and received a Zorki-4 with two nice Jupiter lenses. ;D
Count me in as a member of the Redscale Army, I'll Redscale some film in an Exa and a Kiev 88.
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As a matter of principle, I think that from now on I will only shoot redscaled film in cameras produced in Communist states: the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the German Democratic Republic, the People's Republic of Massachusetts, etc.
You forgot Czechoslovakia (Meopta Flexaret for instance). And of course, if my father's sympathies are anything to go by, UK in the sixties and seventies. But then again camera production had all but ceased by then. ;)
You are correct, of course; mine was not intended to be a comprehensive list. In any thorough accounting, I'm sure the Midlands in the 1960s and 70s would be right up there with Cold War Albania and present-day Berkeley (not that any of these were noted for camera production, mostly specializing in fiery revolutionary rhetoric and self-righteous indignation).
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As a matter of principle, I think that from now on I will only shoot redscaled film in cameras produced in Communist states: the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, the German Democratic Republic, the People's Republic of Massachusetts, etc.
While I take issue with the inclusion of Massachusetts, sir :P I may have to follow suit and shoot some redscale in my Zorki.
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I shot a roll of expired Agfa vista 100 at asa 25 last spring on a sunny day but ran out of Ilfotol, so the hard water spots spoiled the roll so I never posted them.
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I shot a roll of expired Agfa vista 100 at asa 25 last spring on a sunny day but ran out of Ilfotol, so the hard water spots spoiled the roll so I never posted them.
Me Likey!
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I shot a roll of expired Agfa vista 100 at asa 25 last spring on a sunny day but ran out of Ilfotol, so the hard water spots spoiled the roll so I never posted them.
Me Likey!
Why thank you good sir! ;)
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I shot a roll of expired Agfa vista 100 at asa 25 last spring on a sunny day but ran out of Ilfotol, so the hard water spots spoiled the roll so I never posted them.
Me Likey!
Why thank you good sir! ;)
I wonder if letting the negs soak in white vinegar for 20 minutes and then re-rinsing would get rid of the spots?
I do that to get rid of the calcium deposits in my humidifier and it works better than scraping the thing clean.
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Here's my first contribution to Red Feb.
http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=7710 (http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=7710)