Filmwasters
Which Board? => Main Forum => : hookstrapped October 25, 2014, 01:19:16 PM
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I never bonded with my Ricoh. Didn't like the noise of the AF and advance, and something else I haven't put my finger on. I'm missing my M2 with CV 1.9 28mm lens. Was talking to a friend who recommended the CV Skopar pancake 3.5 and that looks to be the ticket. But for a body... there's the Bessa 4M with its nice wide angle frame lines, there's the M2 whose entire viewfinder frame is a good approximation of the 28mm field of view.
But I'd like something smaller and cheaper. Don't really need the rangefinder since zone focus works well with a 28. Any suggestions for a small cheap body that takes an M mount? Or something else completely different?
Thanks!
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Are you willing to work with an external viewfinder, or do you want something with 28mm built-in? If the former, the Leica CL is probably a good option (especially if you want a meter), as is a FED-2 (screwmount, though); neither one has a stellar reputation for reliability, but there are good ones out there. The CV Bessa T is pretty small as well, but I never warmed up to the design (and I believe it's LTM as well, not M). I second the recommendation of the CV 28/3.5 - I haven't used one, but I love my CV 21/4, which has a similar external design.
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have you looked at the minolta tc-1?
http://www.35mmc.com/27/09/2014/minolta-tc-1-eccentric-beauty/ (http://www.35mmc.com/27/09/2014/minolta-tc-1-eccentric-beauty/)
I have a fujifilm klasse w and that works for me.
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Kowa SW is very cute. My most wanted camera.
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I know you said "cheaper" but if you can afford a Nikon 28Ti they are stunners.
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You could also go the Fed5B or Zorki6 route. When you get a good one, they are indeed very good.
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Thanks for the suggestions! I've only got through checking out the Minolta and I am very intrigued by it. Will check out the other suggestions as well.
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X2 on the 28Ti
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Och a chust luv ma wee Ricoh GR1, an nae fergetin ma teenie wee Olympus XA tae 8) :)
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ohyeah! nice taking up the XA, ed! their xa4 is actually a good little 28mm :)
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That XA4 looks pretty nifty but they are extremely rare.
I just remembered I have a Bessa-L body, so thinking about the 28mm Skopar but they aren't available in screw mount nowadays and there's the added expense of a viewfinder. So now I'm thinking of the 21mm Skopar which is screw mount and comes with the external viewfinder. I remembered I wanted though have never used a 21 other than in a Vivitar UWS (I think that's a 21). Anyway, though that Minolta really appeals to me, the noise of the focus and advance kinda scares me. A Bessa-L with a Skopar is more like what I had in mind... manual zone focus, manual advance. It doesn't have the quietest shutter but I'm jazzed by the idea.
Thanks for telling me about these cool cameras.
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The 21/4 Skopar is a really fun lens. I grabbed mine after considering several other wide focal lengths (28, 25, 15). I've found more uses for it than I originally imagined. Zone focusing is all that's necessary; the DOF is ridiculous. The Voigtländer VF is excellent as well.
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cool
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I had one, and sold it. Reminds me I need to kick myself - again
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Not sure what your quality expectations are but the LC-A is a 32mm. A hair tighter than a 28.
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One more for the Nikon 28Ti. I have the 35mm version, it's been my travel companion for many years. The only thing that ever went wrong was when the viewfinder melted off in the hot Sicilian sun. I put it back in my bag and it glued itself back on!
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I had the Nikon 35Ti, same body as the 28Ti at the same time as my GR1s, just to put it out there - the Ti is a bulky thing with non-existing ergonomics compared to the GR. The cv 28/3.5 mated with a Minolta CLE used to be my favourite combination as a walk around, not much bigger than a compact but with all the manual control it´s a real winner!
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I just found out about this Fujifilm P&S, the Natura Classica -- there have been other versions in the past, famously the 1.9. But this camera, with a 28-56 zoom, features an aperture range of f2.8-5.4. Bizarre. I get that it's marketed as a low-light camera, with a special auto low-light / high speed film feature, but still... Fuji, keep being Fuji and making little weird cameras
http://microsites.lomography.com/fujinatura/specs (http://microsites.lomography.com/fujinatura/specs)
They are ridiculously expensive at around $900 but there's a used one in town that I'm going to check out.
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The Night Program feature would make a lot more sense if you could still get Fuji's own 1600- or 800-speed films, both of which have disappeared (at least from the US market). If you can manually set the ISO so you can push the film then at least there's a work-around.
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If you are thinking of a Fuji, what about the Classe W?
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The Night Program feature would make a lot more sense if you could still get Fuji's own 1600- or 800-speed films, both of which have disappeared (at least from the US market). If you can manually set the ISO so you can push the film then at least there's a work-around.
That's one of the things I want to check out with the used one in town.
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If you are thinking of a Fuji, what about the Classe W?
I had that in mind until I read a review that said the camera is extremely slow to autofocus. And zone focusing for the street in manual mode... maybe but I would need to check that out.
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Nikon Lite touch, konica eu mini, 24mm Minolta P's / Freedom Vista.
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I've looked at getting a Natura Classica but my hesitation was that I had read that it wasn't great for outdoors, even in overcast conditions. I've never used one so I could be wrong so perhaps someone could confirm that? I thought there was someone on FW who used one? They are a handsome P&S regardless.