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: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Urban Hafner November 21, 2013, 07:13:20 AM
For a long time I couldn't see the point of shooting panoramas by cropping 35mm negatives. Now that I have a Minolta Riva Panorama with its beautiful 24mm lens I've changed my mind. Let's all share our best shots taken in panorama "mode".

(http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5478/10974121656_7861fbb25a_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ujh/10974121656/)
Barn in the fog (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ujh/10974121656/#) by Urban Hafner (http://www.flickr.com/people/ujh/), on Flickr
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Late Developer November 21, 2013, 09:14:20 AM
Nice photo Urban.

I've often thought about getting a camera with a panoramic format / aspect ratio. Paul Mitchell waxes lyrical about his former Hassy X-Pan and I've seen several photos taken with one that explain why they are so highly regarded.

I tend not to crop 35mm to panoramic but I have done it, on occasion, with 120.  I actually compose for it when I can remember. Other times, it just looks better than 6x6 or 6x7. 

Are you happy to have cropped 120 on this thread or does it have to be 35mm?
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Urban Hafner November 21, 2013, 09:33:21 AM
Thanks Paul. Getting it right in camera is somehow infinitely more satisfying for me than doing it in post. I actually don't crop in post much, but I'm happy to include cropped shots in this thread.
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Ezzie November 21, 2013, 10:12:57 AM
I've been thinking of a Widelux, or similar. I want one. But I need to get rid of something else first.
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: DonkeyDave November 21, 2013, 11:44:10 AM
Ezzie if you need any advice on widelux, noblex etc let me know

I love my widelux, but it seldom works....
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Late Developer November 21, 2013, 12:47:31 PM
Thanks Paul. Getting it right in camera is somehow infinitely more satisfying for me than doing it in post. I actually don't crop in post much, but I'm happy to include cropped shots in this thread.

Great and thanks.

I also like to get things right in camera if I can - but I don't have a pano camera at the moment. I'd really like to have a go with an X-Pan but they are not cheap and the really wide lens is often £1,500 second-hand  :o
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Urban Hafner November 21, 2013, 12:53:48 PM
I think I'm OK with my 4€ Minolta Riva Panorama. Yes, it does crop the 35mm frame, but that's still plenty big. The fact that the above image is so grainy is probably because it was overexposed by two stops. I'll try some ISO 100 black and white film or Ilford XP2 next.

BTW, there are a few more shots from that roll on my blog: http://urbanhafnerphotography.com/blog/2013/11/20/week-41-a-foggy-morning-in-bavaria-with-the-minolta-riva-panorama (http://urbanhafnerphotography.com/blog/2013/11/20/week-41-a-foggy-morning-in-bavaria-with-the-minolta-riva-panorama)
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: imagesfrugales November 21, 2013, 01:10:01 PM
The original format has a huge influence on how I compose. A 6x6 square neg mostly will be a final square picture and 24x36 mostly will stay as a 3:2 ratio pic. I never made a direct panoramic shot except digitally stiched, but sometimes I crop.


Here's an example in 16:9 aspect ratio.

: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: AJShepherd November 21, 2013, 05:23:07 PM
I've got a Horizon 202 which is a 35mm swing-lens camera.
(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7356/9325736517_a8ae1299fd_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajshepherd/9325736517/)
Camilla's Bookshop (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ajshepherd/9325736517/#) by Antony J  Shepherd (http://www.flickr.com/people/ajshepherd/), on Flickr
I find I tend to get a bright vertical line about a sixth of the way in from the right, although the intensity of the effect varies and sometimes it's not noticeable at all, which suggests to me it's some weird flare issue not a mechanical issue.
The perspective effects can be a bit strange, but sometimes it all comes together. Really should use it more!
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: 02Pilot November 21, 2013, 05:49:53 PM
Someone in the former Soviet states posted a panoramic 35mm camera they built out of a FED-2 and a lens/shutter assembly from a medium format folder over on the FSU board at RFF. Quite a nice arrangement, nice enough that I immediately wanted to build one of my own. Anybody got an old Soviet rangefinder and/or a medium format lens and shutter lying around they'd like to see put to good use?
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Diane Peterson November 21, 2013, 07:57:57 PM
I bought a horizon, put the film in and have never used it..brand new and just waiting..not sure what for!
I have a minolta maxxum that shoots pano and I really like it..and I only paid a $6.00 for it and it works perfectly!
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Urban Hafner November 21, 2013, 08:10:03 PM
Aw Diane. That's a shame! But sometimes it's just the way it is. Cameras that should be great just don't feel good.
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Francois November 21, 2013, 09:20:43 PM
And I've got my spinner  8)

I just love this thing to bits!

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7437/9480003283_742b1cabc7.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/17202358@N00/9480003283/)
Landscape (http://www.flickr.com/photos/17202358@N00/9480003283/#) by Flaver-D (http://www.flickr.com/people/17202358@N00/), on Flickr
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Adam Doe November 21, 2013, 11:00:53 PM
Sprocket Rocket.

(http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6201/6146011190_61939451b5_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adoephoto/6146011190)
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Ezzie November 22, 2013, 07:07:17 AM
I bought a horizon, put the film in and have never used it..brand new and just waiting..not sure what for!
I have a minolta maxxum that shoots pano and I really like it..and I only paid a $6.00 for it and it works perfectly!

Which model Diane? Try it out, and if you don't like it I might consider relieving you of it. ;)
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Ezzie November 22, 2013, 07:12:01 AM
Two frames from the M4-2 stitched. Hand held, no pano head.

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7160/6430915119_03588d53fb_b.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ezzie0304/6430915119/)
Drammen (http://www.flickr.com/photos/ezzie0304/6430915119/#) by Eirik0304 (http://www.flickr.com/people/ezzie0304/), on Flickr
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: charles binns November 22, 2013, 09:26:41 AM
Widelux F8
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Paul Mitchell November 22, 2013, 01:19:29 PM
A couple from my XPanII. I should never have sold it!  :'(

(http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1351/1366150569_fadd95c843_o.jpg)

(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/184/430602629_1fd8b13db2_o.jpg)

Paul
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Late Developer November 22, 2013, 07:57:04 PM
A couple from my XPanII. I should never have sold it!  :'(

(http://farm2.staticflickr.com/1351/1366150569_fadd95c843_o.jpg)

(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/184/430602629_1fd8b13db2_o.jpg)

Paul

You're right, Paul, you should never have sold it. Those are stunners.  The shot of Whitby in the mist is INCREDIBLE.
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: gary m November 22, 2013, 08:46:50 PM
I dig the Sprocket Rocket
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: jojonas~ November 22, 2013, 09:50:09 PM
nice to see some love for the sprocket rocket :)
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: euge... November 22, 2013, 10:34:42 PM
just to lower the quality levels...
from a £1 jumble sale no brand camera
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Urban Hafner November 23, 2013, 06:51:42 AM
I dig the Sprocket Rocket

Very nice Gary! I've been thinking of getting it for a while, but I'm not sure I can justify the price. Isn't there also a Holga 135 panorama camera? Maybe that's cheaper.
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Adam Doe November 23, 2013, 04:35:59 PM
Well, since we're expounding the virtues of the Sprocket Rocket...

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7230/7299283776_6d76ea11f5_c.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/adoephoto/7299283776)
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Andrea. November 23, 2013, 07:58:05 PM
Enthused by this post I dug out a Pentax Espio P&S, turned on the pano cropping thing and shot.
Agfa ASP 400s/ ID11

The Croft
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Rafael Morales November 24, 2013, 04:00:33 PM
I love the Sprocket Rocket. I did not think it was good because the negs were a bit thin. But then I started scanning them. It is tough and I have not been able to show the sprocket holes. (Epson v500)
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: imagesfrugales November 24, 2013, 05:09:54 PM
Hi Rafael, to scan the negs with the sprocket holes, simply put them directly on the scanner glass, emulsion side down and cover them with a glass from a picture frame f.e. If you get newton rings, use anti reflective coated glass. Do the framing on the scanner manually. That's how I scan all my negs with the Canoscan 8800F and get even better scans. I also got a used V500 without any film holders and it works to like a charm.

Best - Reinhold
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Francois November 24, 2013, 07:07:48 PM
You might want to check this solution
http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=3428.0 (http://www.filmwasters.com/forum/index.php?topic=3428.0)
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: Rafael Morales November 24, 2013, 07:40:55 PM
Thanks for the info Reinhold and Francois I will have to try that out soon. Here is a panoramic photo I took many years ago. (Before digital) I used my Nikon n6006 with the 28-85mm lens. It was put together with Microsoft Image Gallery (free)

(http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7318/8722749501_4c8de591e7.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46595299@N03/8722749501/)
img088 Stitch (http://www.flickr.com/photos/46595299@N03/8722749501/#) by commieflex (http://www.flickr.com/people/46595299@N03/), on Flickr
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: limr November 25, 2013, 04:35:35 AM
I think I might have posted this on a weekend thread at some point. Or maybe not. Anywho, it's a pano from 35mm film so up it goes in this thread, too! :) I believe this was the Zorki 6.
: Re: Panoramas on 35mm film
: moominsean November 25, 2013, 04:23:12 PM
Shot with a Goodwill pano camera:

(http://farm1.staticflickr.com/55/116119982_747f0813ee_z.jpg) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjrohde/116119982/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjrohde/116119982/#) by moominsean (http://www.flickr.com/people/sjrohde/), on Flickr

and this is a pano camera I made from a plastic DIY stereo camera kit and a Chinese Holga clone lens.

(http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3614/3348275092_66e6aaa9b0_z.jpg?zz=1) (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjrohde/3348275092/)
Untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/sjrohde/3348275092/#) by moominsean (http://www.flickr.com/people/sjrohde/), on Flickr