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: x-ray scan - film effect > how?
: wblati November 29, 2010, 07:01:15 PM
Hi, I was wondering if I can get the look of x-ray damage on film at home - obviously I wont have a baggage scanner so is there anything I can do to the film?

http://www.kodak.com/global/en/service/tib/tib5201.shtml
: Re: x-ray scan - film effect > how?
: Phil Bebbington November 29, 2010, 07:17:35 PM
Perhaps throw it in the microwave for a period  :-\
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: sapata November 29, 2010, 08:07:23 PM
It's been 10 years at least I get on the airplane to visit my parents back home, my bag go through a million x-ray machines on the way since I normally have conexion flights and I 've never had a single problem with my films.  :o

Could anyone post an example of a damaged film by x-ray ?
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: gregor November 29, 2010, 08:25:58 PM
in theory faster films (880 and upward) may get damaged by airport x-rays. however I've never seen an example of this. my own neopan 1600 was unscathed as well as some 3000 fuji pack film, both x-rayed in lithuania where the technology is not exactly the latest.

airport security will usually advise that 400 and below is fine and 800 or more may get damaged.
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: Francois November 29, 2010, 09:10:31 PM
The only way that I know that is certain to damage the film is to go to a place where they do X-rays. Clinics come to mind... also industries that weld pipes (they x-ray the pipes to make sure the welds are OK with an high intensity beam). Also, there's the port where they use a high energy gamma ray to inspect all the containers that come through...

Though I don't know if any one of them will grant you access for this purpose...
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: Heather November 29, 2010, 09:51:44 PM
Sticky Tape! Lots and lots of Sticky Tape  ;D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7686530.stm
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: Francois November 29, 2010, 10:17:06 PM
Sticky Tape! Lots and lots of Sticky Tape  ;D
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7686530.stm
;D
You can also put it next to a glow in the dark (phosphorescent) alarm clock for lets say... 50 years :)
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: jojonas~ November 30, 2010, 02:53:31 PM
I actually saw some films last week that were supposedly x-rayed. looked kind of tired developer/too little agitation with a stripe over the whole film.
they were x-rayed but I can't swear by it that it was the effect of that.
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: Randy B November 30, 2010, 07:38:39 PM
I was a little paranoid about traveling with high speed film and was researching this last week.  From what I was able to see, an Xray machine will basically just fog the film, occasionally it may cast a white or colored band.  to get this effect at home I'd say use spent developer, improperly stored and expired film, leave film on a sunny windowsill or in a hot car for a long time or push the film alot.  I've also gotten these various "effects" by using the cheapest and crappiest film processing place I could find (I would recommend a drug store that doesn't see much traffic).
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: Francois November 30, 2010, 10:18:54 PM
I know 35mm are potentially less affected because of their metal casing.

In the case of 120, there was a trick on the Lomo Labrats site for loosening the exposed film in order to get light leaks on it and then respooling it tight before sticking the tape on it. That might give the effect you're looking for... Bands and streaks galore in totally random places.
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: moominsean December 01, 2010, 12:38:47 AM
i have some tips on creating leaks from this old blog post

http://moominsean.blogspot.com/2006/06/lightleaksyou-can-screw-up-your-film.html
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: Greys on Grey December 02, 2010, 03:44:41 AM
next time you go to the dentist....... just ask.
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: Francois December 02, 2010, 02:26:42 PM
next time you go to the dentist....... just ask.
And if you can open wide enough, you can also get an image of those pearly whites on every print ;)
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: Nigel December 02, 2010, 05:38:32 PM
Sticky Tape! Lots and lots of Sticky Tape 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/7686530.stm

That's fascinating! I didn't know that, I must have been asleep during that science lesson.  ;)