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Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« on: February 21, 2010, 06:13:11 AM »
Last week I bought a vintage Lomo LC-A for $100, a great deal i thought. I anxiously waited a long 7 days for it to arrive from a guy in Washington state. I was so excited when it came. With it, a fresh roll of the AGFA precisa, the reversal film of lore that i heard so much about. Life was grand. I gleefully took pictures with it; at night, during the day, in the sun, under the clouds. Then, this morning, i took my son for a walk and on exposure 13 (unlucky number) my LC-A disintegrated. The shutter jammed simultaneously with the front cover not able to properly open while the front face was coming off. I spent 4 hrs dismantling it, trying to find a way to repair her, but it was all of naught. So long LC-A , i barely knew you but I loved you just the same....


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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2010, 09:45:59 AM »
aw, sorry to hear that.
i used to have one too, in fact i took my BEST EVER roll of film on it...the light was perfect, the compositions inspired, sadly the camera didn't actually wind the film on so there was nothing to show for it :)
i had a friend fix it for me and then sold it on ebay.

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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #2 on: February 21, 2010, 04:30:02 PM »
Not sure if they still do but Lomo used to offer a free repair service,   I used it twice and it took an age for the cameras to get returned....but hey..it was free!


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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #3 on: February 21, 2010, 05:13:57 PM »
I'm not sure if that will work since I bought it used, but i will give it a shot!
Thanks!

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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #4 on: February 21, 2010, 06:16:29 PM »
Here's a radical idea...why not use...a GOOD camera.
I cannot tell you how many folks I have had come to my Used Dept.
at my job with similar horror stories about their LC-As.
Now, there is nothing special about these pocket-sized nightmares at
all. They won't make you a better photographer. They will make
you a poorer (and rightfully pissed-off) photographer because the
wretched piece of crap that LOMO sells is an inexcusable rip-off.
For the $250 that these things cost, one can buy a Nikon FM2 and
at least one lens...or a bag-full of functioning Argus C3s...a gross
of usable Brownie Boxes...a Holga is more reliable...Uh-mazin'.

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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #5 on: February 21, 2010, 06:28:24 PM »
Ok now cmdrray,  no reason to condescend.  I own many many cameras, and this was just one in the arsenal.   I own several Holgas, Dianas, a Brownie Starflex, Hasselblad 500c/m, and Nikon D90 .  This wasn't the magic light box that was going to turn me into a good photographer.  I just wanted a new toy and was hoping the joy of it would have lasted a little longer than it did.  I purposely bought this used as to not pay the $280 price tag.  I was bummed it didn't work out and my hyperbole in my post was for dramatic effect. 

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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #6 on: February 21, 2010, 09:19:52 PM »
I love all the fuss whenever the the name Lomo is mentioned in any forum...

While I agree that LCA is overpriced , this camera made me realize that I could take good  pictures without a decent camera. If I only knew that before buying my first SLR,  I would have shot tons of films with plastic cameras ! 

Maybe a shoe box with a pinhole would make you a better photographer... who knows ?  because in the end  who is behind the camera that counts  ;)
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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #7 on: February 21, 2010, 11:33:22 PM »
I love all the fuss whenever the the name Lomo is mentioned in any forum...

It is starting to make me think the L*** word is somehow jinxed ;)
Maybe we should start writing it in Russian.

ЛОМО probably is much less threatening :)
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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #8 on: February 22, 2010, 02:35:39 AM »
Indeed, the new Lomos have inflated prices.  How else would they pay for all the flashy marketing?  I recently went to the Lomo store opening here in Los Angeles and it is evident that everything they do in regard to marketing is meticulously planned.  In that front, it was quite impressive actually.  I didn't buy anything, but I wanted to!  I personally don't mind Lomography as much as others.  Are they overpriced? In a word,  a big YES.  But in a world that has been taken over by zeros and ones, I personally welcome any force that is willing to promote an analog future. 

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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #9 on: February 22, 2010, 01:46:11 PM »
Ive owned a few lomo's...never from new and lomo fixed 2 of them up!

Worth a try at least,   There used to be a section called Lomo Doctor (or similar) i cant see it now,  but you never know.

If you were UK based, although you dont have to be, there is a bloke called Roger Lean, who does a repair service for a flat fee of GBP 25

Cant say im keen to get involved in fisty cuffs over "lomo"  Agree they are so overpriced its stupid  BUT the lomo LCA itself is a great little camera, I love mine.   I dont use it very often anymore as I think I have burnt out a little on it, but thats not to say I wont use it again one day.   Also most I ever paid for one is about GBP 80 and as low as GBP 25.   

For me its a different camera,  I also own some sharp glass, plastic stuff, pinholes, MF, LF  (and arguably I cant use any of it ...ha)  its just something different to use.   I find it easier to seperate the camera from the company,  nothing wrong with lomo, the LCA etc but I can see why people would like to vent spleens at "lomography"  for something is very overpriced over there.



 

 

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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2010, 03:04:26 PM »
Have heard good things about Roger Lean based in Hornsey, N. London near my old neck of the woods.

Supposedly a Russian camera specialist and postage would not be that significant to save him/her.

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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2010, 04:13:06 PM »
Aaaah, the ?L? word causes another bout of (slightly-and-in-a-friendly-way) raised blood pressure on Filmwasters...who?d have thunk it? ?

Hi bfreunds, I?m afraid you've become the latest unfortunate victim of the ?Lomo-effect? which occasionally haunts this forum (to be honest, I usually have a hand in it, but am interested to see that Cmdrray jumped in ahead of me this time). The ?Lomo-effect? is similar to the ?Steve Jobs reality distortion field? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_distortion_field) that IT geeks are familiar with, except that in this case it makes wholly rational and friendly people go all twitchy and exasperated whenever anyone on the forum says anything nice about the Lomographic lot or their cameras. I?m really sorry, but that?s the way it is. You shouldn?t have to do this ? and I feel bad even suggesting it ? but it?s probably  wise to qualify and contextualize any 'Lomo love' that one dishes out on this forum to prevent the Lomo-effect from hitting someone full on, thereby causing them to pen a caustic rejoinder to your original message. You more or less supplied the qualification in your 2nd post.

Given Cmdrray's profession I suspect he has a fairly realistic take on the value of the LC-A in relation to its romantic image and marketing hype. Personally, I was shocked to learn that they sell for USD250 new. That quite literally blows my mind considering their well-publicised failure rate.

On the other hand, I can see why you were excited about using one for the first time; they do have something about them, don't they? And I really enjoyed using mine for a year or so before leaving it on the shelf when I went off in search of toycamera glory and swapped glass for plastic.

The usual disclosure: I used to own an LC-A. I bought it new from the Lomographic Confabulation Society in 2000 and it worked just fine until the day it was stolen. Prior to that I?d bought a Super Sampler from them (it broke), an Action Sampler (it broke too) and I have a feeling that I even bought my first Holga from them in 2001. Not bought anything from them since.

On the basis that virtually anything that keeps people buying film is a good thing, I don?t really hate them, but through their pricing policy and OTT marketing they?ve turned themselves into an easy target and it?s hard to let the opportunity for a little dig in their direction pass by.

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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #12 on: February 22, 2010, 07:36:23 PM »
Ive owned a few lomo's...never from new and lomo fixed 2 of them up!

Worth a try at least,   There used to be a section called Lomo Doctor (or similar) i cant see it now,  but you never know.

If you were UK based, although you dont have to be, there is a bloke called Roger Lean, who does a repair service for a flat fee of GBP 25

Cant say im keen to get involved in fisty cuffs over "lomo"  Agree they are so overpriced its stupid  BUT the lomo LCA itself is a great little camera, I love mine.   I dont use it very often anymore as I think I have burnt out a little on it, but thats not to say I wont use it again one day.   Also most I ever paid for one is about GBP 80 and as low as GBP 25.   

For me its a different camera,  I also own some sharp glass, plastic stuff, pinholes, MF, LF  (and arguably I cant use any of it ...ha)  its just something different to use.   I find it easier to seperate the camera from the company,  nothing wrong with lomo, the LCA etc but I can see why people would like to vent spleens at "lomography"  for something is very overpriced over there.


Yep... he's really good ! I took my LCA there to be serviced and I'm quite happy with his work. I also bought a Smena camera from him that is great ...
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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2010, 09:35:55 AM »
No condescension here...just a concern that a fellow photographer was taken to the cleaner's...something that I do not like to see. Machines should work, people should think.  There is nothing wrong about buying a old Soviet Block camera (provided it's under $20-$30), and not battery powered.  Not only do I not like seeing people getting ripped off, I do not like the Lomographic mantra of  "Don't Think"....Let's see...not thinking...that gave us George Bush, Global Warming, and a whole list of bad stuff. Photographers should most certainly THINK. Ok...'nuff said. Let's go make some photographs now...:D

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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2010, 09:55:42 AM »
I also hate the "dont think, just shoot" mentality.

Its crazy..... "think on" i say!


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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2010, 01:05:07 PM »
... I do not like the Lomographic mantra of  "Don't Think"....(snip).....Photographers should most certainly THINK. Ok...'nuff said. Let's go make some photographs now...:D

And Cmdrray goes straight to the top of the class for this comment. If asked to sum up why we started Filmwasters all those years ago in 2 or 3 pithy bullet points, a burning desire to counter the prevailing "Don't think, just shoot." attitude coming from the Lomographic people and some other quarters would be right up there. That's why we always coined the unwieldy phrase, "creative film-based photography", to describe what it is we do here.

It's supposed to convey 3 things at once:

  • We want to showcase work from people who have thought about what they're doing and why they're doing it...or at least thinking about thinking about what they're doing and why it is or isn't working out.
  • We want attention directed at the final image more than the technicalities of how we got there. That said, we are photographers, so technical discussions will naturally break out from time to time  ;)
  • Any type of camera, any format, any film, just not digital (without actually saying the 'd' word because discussion of that issue can get stupidly emotional and we wanted to avoid it).

...the thing we missed with that phrase is the non-film, non-digital crew and for that we're sorry. A lot of people who come to Filmwasters don't actually use film all the time, so at some point we might need to re-think our not-so-catchy slogan to make the glass plate, wet plate, paper neg etc. exponents amongst us feel more loved.

I guess the problem then is that we'd have to re think the title of the site and that sounds like altogether too much work.

 :D :D :D

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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2010, 03:47:06 PM »
CMDRAY,
Great points you have made there.  The "don't think" mantra is really quite irritating.  Although, I can see from a purely marketing standpoint why they included it. It's aimed at the layman who hasn't picked up photography for fear that they, "don't know how to take a good picture".   Obviously, I don't agree with it, but I think it's a very effective marketing strategy.

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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2010, 04:38:28 PM »
Amusingly in BJP a few weeks ago there was a review of LC-As and the upshot was that money would be better spent on an old M2 or M3 with Elmar lens on  ;D
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Re: Vintage Lomo LC-A - The day the pictures died...
« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2010, 09:34:19 AM »
Amusingly in BJP a few weeks ago there was a review of LC-As and the upshot was that money would be better spent on an old M2 or M3 with Elmar lens on  ;D

Interesting thought. Though the LC-A is quite a bit cheaper. However, you probably have to buy the Leica only once.  ;)

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